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Originally Posted by GezonMotors
WOW, You do realize that beating up the salesman means getting throw a beating back right? With some of the buying attitudes I hear here I can tell you 100% that you will NOT get the best deal from me if you try to play hard-***. You'll get a much better deal if you're civil and you actually know what a good deal is. $500 above would get you No Deal if you are a jerk to me. $400 over may get you a deal if you can be pleasant. Get it? But the thing I guess I didn't take into consideration is the fact that I don't treat customers like most salespeople do. And I have to give everyone the recognition that alot of the time buying a car sucks because of the games you have to play. So I appologize if I sounded like an assh#ole salesman. I get irritated because of the way that people treat the salesman on top of demanding a price that kills the profit that I get paid on. I wind up working for a small commission for 2 hours while some jerk abuses me by saying things like "If you don't want my money...so and so will!" etc. I know what Titans are going for in the area and I am going to make sure that you get as good or a little better deal than my compitition. I make a living on customer service. Trust me, I want you to trust me and come back to see my in the future. I want you to tell your friends to come see me. I just forget that soooo many salespeople give the ones like me a bad rap. I see where you all are coming from. Just realize that if you're getting a good deal and your salesperson is helpful, you'll get along great as long as there is a happy medium for both of you. Both sides have to agree for best results. It's amazing how enjoyable customers get the best care. I wash all my customers cars when I see them in for service, stuff like that. Not because I have to, but because I like them. I'll get to the end here, but the bottom line is that it's a hell of a truck. Most likely the best half ton out there. (the point could definitely be argued pretty easily) I say, DO find out what invoice is, but realize there are factors that can affect it so don't assume is exactly the amount you find online everytime. BUT, I think you're setting yourself up for an "all the dealer sees in you is a sale" type relationship than someone they like. Not that you need to buy their friendship. But there are perks for being an appreciated customer and not an un-realistic, beat up the salesman, hard to get along with type. If you get the typical slimy, fast talking slimy salesman...Beat him up!! lol. Just walk out of the dealership then. Just be realistic. Off like a prom dress...
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Wow, I did not know sales men had feelings......

IM just kidding! I personally dislike car sales men just due to their dishonesty.... You seem like a decient guy! What state do you live in? I would go to a dealership to be treated this way! The dealership i was going through makes me feel like a burden when ever i ask questions, like im bothering them!