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NorCal 4x4 · 05-11-2008, 02:10 PM

Because most people on here, (not all), have had very poor tread life out of the ones that come stock with the off road package. These were in the P285/70/17 size, and are actually an all-season tire, not an all terrain. This short tread life is fairly common for OEM tires ... not just BFGoodrich, in fact their AT KO tires, which are a light truck, (LT), are known to be long lasting tires for most.

Anyway my Rugged Trails were near illegal at 23,000 miles. I drive curvy roads , so I wasn't too shocked, but was expecting 30-35K miles, but because so many people on here complain about less than 25K miles, and only a few state greater than 30K, they seem to be a poor choice to me. Also, my aftermarket BFGoodrich AT KO LT285/70/17 tires already have 33K miles on them, and probably have 10K miles of tread left ... same driving conditions, [however they started getting really slick in the rain this year, but were fine before, so they will be summer tires].

If I was looking for a light-weight P-rated tire, instead of an LT tire, I'd look at the Toyo ATs and the Bridgestone Dueler Revo AT. Both are also available in heavier LT versions, in some sizes. [Finally the Revo is also available in an LT285/70/17]. With gas prices so high, I might actually be looking for a P-rated tire next time, since a 44 lbs. tire can save a couple of miles per gallon over a 73 lbs. tire, (my current are Toyo M/Ts in a LT295/70/17 and I've lost about 2 mpg over stock, and lost 1 mpg compared to the 58 lbs. KOs).

05-11-2008, 02:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
NorCal 4x4 Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sierra Nevada foothills - CA Posts: 2,459 Thanks: 20 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Wheel And Tire Size for 2005 Stock XE Because most people on here, (not all), have had very poor tread life out of the ones that come stock with the off road package. These were in the P285/70/17 size, and are actually an all-season tire, not an all terrain. This short tread life is fairly common for OEM tires ... not just BFGoodrich, in fact their AT KO tires, which are a light truck, (LT), are known to be long lasting tires for most. Anyway my Rugged Trails were near illegal at 23,000 miles. I drive curvy roads , so I wasn't too shocked, but was expecting 30-35K miles, but because so many people on here complain about less than 25K miles, and only a few state greater than 30K, they seem to be a poor choice to me. Also, my aftermarket BFGoodrich AT KO LT285/70/17 tires already have 33K miles on them, and probably have 10K miles of tread left ... same driving conditions, [however they started getting really slick in the rain this year, but were fine before, so they will be summer tires]. If I was looking for a light-weight P-rated tire, instead of an LT tire, I'd look at the Toyo ATs and the Bridgestone Dueler Revo AT. Both are also available in heavier LT versions, in some sizes. [Finally the Revo is also available in an LT285/70/17]. With gas prices so high, I might actually be looking for a P-rated tire next time, since a 44 lbs. tire can save a couple of miles per gallon over a 73 lbs. tire, (my current are Toyo M/Ts in a LT295/70/17 and I've lost about 2 mpg over stock, and lost 1 mpg compared to the 58 lbs. KOs). __________________ Silver '04 Titan SE Crew Cab 4x4 w/E-LOCK® - Born on 05/18/04 in the USA ... 33.5" Toyo M/Ts; PRGproducts.com ... DRE Coilovers; DRE rear shocks; TC upper A-arms; and PRG Shackles, set at 0".