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just letting yall know russels specs worked perfectly and fit snug exactly--there was no play at all. I picked up an Illusion audio ND10, and built the box added carpet, and voila a new rf sytem. I used 1/2 birch plywood to save room and weight gives the woofer a different sound and it is also much harder than mdf (but more expesive too). I added a ton of polyfill to make the bass more accurate. thx Russell once again. IF folks want pics let me know,and Ill pulll the sub from under the seat and post them
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