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Originally Posted by dknb
Sorry guys. I weighed my truck. Your numbers are off. My truck weighs 2020 on the front axle, 3010 on the rear axle (full). Gross weight is 5030. Add the pin weight of 1200 with the hitch weight 70#, makes my payload around 1270 to 1300. Under the payload weight of 1640. Rear axle weight is around 3400 or about 390 to 400# under the rating. GCVW is under by 870#. The only weight i am over is the GVWR which is 6400#. I have 6420#. Over by 20#.. Pulling about 8500# or under by 1000# of what the truck is rated for. I recommend taking your trucks to the scales. You will learn what your truck weighs as opposed to what a sticker or book says it weighs.
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I did weigh my truck, twice, so no speculation or guessing (incidentally it came very close to book and sticker numbers). Under a real world situation not empty (me and my wife and full fuel and our usual 10 days worth of camping stuff in the cab NOTHING in the bed). 5700lbs total, 3250 front axle, 2450 rear.
Using your numbers, I come up with the following. You stated your empty weight is 5030. 6400 GVWR minus 5030 empty = 1370 payload (not 1640, no SE has anywhere near that capability either per the book). 1370 payload minus 1270 hitch/pin wt = only 100 lbs for people/cargo. Again, only one very small driver goes along for the ride, add a real driver and pax and stuff and you are way over.
Also, using my real world rear axle weight of ~2450, adding the 1270 hitch/pin wt really pushes the rear axle rating.
Have you actually weighed the entire rig, or just the truck and then add the book/sticker figures for the trailer? I'm very interested in a 5th wheel but ALL my research (as well as my calcs using your own numbers above) point to it being at least 400-500lb over GVWR and the axle right at the limit.