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japtitan · 06-28-2009, 11:56 PM

I am asking you these questions because I don't know anything about towing but this is about a friend of mines setup that i was concerned about because I knew something here is not right. This is his comment below on this setup from his research. What do you think?

Enough with all the idiotic emails! Everything you have written on your emails I already researched 3 months ago so it is old news to me. Also you do not have all your facts straight! Truck load weight and haul weight are 2 different things. The tow package I got aftermarket does all the same things a similar tow package from Nissan will do minus the huge price tag from Nissan (but minus the transmission temp. gauge which is an option to me but comes standard with their tow package). The dry weight of the trailer is 4888. Did you know that also includes the tongue weight (point where the truck hitches to the trailer)? The load weight on the truck is for the bed, not passengers unless you plan to have them ride in the box. With a dry weight of 4888 (which includes the tongue weight) and a towing capacity guideline of 6500, that leaves over 1600 lbs. of spare weight before you are at capacity. Yes, I know I would not want to exceed my capacity but with 500 – 600 lbs. of gear (food, clothing, bedding) that still leaves ½ a ton (1000 lbs.) of weight until you are at capacity. I spoke with Burnaby hitch regarding my tow package and it is rated to haul “6600” lbs. “dead haul” weight like a flatbed loaded with rocks etc. and includes tongue weight. It can haul up to “10,000” lbs. of “distributed” (equalized) weight provided you have a weight equalizer hitch with anti sway (which we have). I explained the weight of my trailer and my towing capacity and this is what I was told: - I have 1612 lbs. of spare capacity. This does not mean that I would want to fill the trailer with a bunch of **** to get up to that weight, but rather leave a buffer of 500-800 lbs. I was also told that with my capacities not to drive like a madman, not to rev the engine hard on hills, use manual mode with tow function button on, and to use my trailer brakes (that stupid little box on my dash which Nissan does not include in their package which you have to buy aftermarket regardless!). Even if I had an F-350 that could haul 11,000 lbs., I would drive the same way. As an example, your Pilot has a towing capacity of 2,045 lbs. Our old tent trailer weighed in dry at 1100 lbs. That leaves you with 945 lbs. of spare weight until you are at capacity. With what you have tried to explain in your previous emails, you would not be able to tow that tent trailer behind your Pilot because you would be over your limit! I know for a fact that you CAN haul that trailer with your Pilot! You would however need trailer brakes and a 7 point plug receiver installed. As well, you would not want to haul more than 400-500 lbs. of gear in the trailer itself. Just do the math and your homework with the proper facts (not just snippets of information you are quickly trying to read for the first time to prove your point!) Nuff Said… Chris.

06-28-2009, 11:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
japtitan Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Attn. Luofish I am asking you these questions because I don't know anything about towing but this is about a friend of mines setup that i was concerned about because I knew something here is not right. This is his comment below on this setup from his research. What do you think? Enough with all the idiotic emails! Everything you have written on your emails I already researched 3 months ago so it is old news to me. Also you do not have all your facts straight! Truck load weight and haul weight are 2 different things. The tow package I got aftermarket does all the same things a similar tow package from Nissan will do minus the huge price tag from Nissan (but minus the transmission temp. gauge which is an option to me but comes standard with their tow package). The dry weight of the trailer is 4888. Did you know that also includes the tongue weight (point where the truck hitches to the trailer)? The load weight on the truck is for the bed, not passengers unless you plan to have them ride in the box. With a dry weight of 4888 (which includes the tongue weight) and a towing capacity guideline of 6500, that leaves over 1600 lbs. of spare weight before you are at capacity. Yes, I know I would not want to exceed my capacity but with 500 – 600 lbs. of gear (food, clothing, bedding) that still leaves ½ a ton (1000 lbs.) of weight until you are at capacity. I spoke with Burnaby hitch regarding my tow package and it is rated to haul “6600” lbs. “dead haul” weight like a flatbed loaded with rocks etc. and includes tongue weight. It can haul up to “10,000” lbs. of “distributed” (equalized) weight provided you have a weight equalizer hitch with anti sway (which we have). I explained the weight of my trailer and my towing capacity and this is what I was told: - I have 1612 lbs. of spare capacity. This does not mean that I would want to fill the trailer with a bunch of **** to get up to that weight, but rather leave a buffer of 500-800 lbs. I was also told that with my capacities not to drive like a madman, not to rev the engine hard on hills, use manual mode with tow function button on, and to use my trailer brakes (that stupid little box on my dash which Nissan does not include in their package which you have to buy aftermarket regardless!). Even if I had an F-350 that could haul 11,000 lbs., I would drive the same way. As an example, your Pilot has a towing capacity of 2,045 lbs. Our old tent trailer weighed in dry at 1100 lbs. That leaves you with 945 lbs. of spare weight until you are at capacity. With what you have tried to explain in your previous emails, you would not be able to tow that tent trailer behind your Pilot because you would be over your limit! I know for a fact that you CAN haul that trailer with your Pilot! You would however need trailer brakes and a 7 point plug receiver installed. As well, you would not want to haul more than 400-500 lbs. of gear in the trailer itself. Just do the math and your homework with the proper facts (not just snippets of information you are quickly trying to read for the first time to prove your point!) Nuff Said… Chris.