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Old 09-28-2004, 01:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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At $4/gal it will take a hybrid 150,000 miles to break even.

I gotta agree with 37L1.You aren't going to live forever(I'm 53 so my views have changed also).
By my calculations a if there was good hybrid,or a well matched diesel it would take 150,000 miles to break even at $4/gal.Motor Trend had an article on this recently.There sources said an equivalently powered(fast) hybrid,or diesel is about 25% more efficient than a plain gasoline engined vehicle.I'm taking this to mean you will use just 75% as much gas to travel as far,or you can travel 33% further on the same amount of fuel.
If we assume the Titan averages 14 mpg,then the hybrid or diesel would get 18 mpg.At 100,000 miles the 14 mpg will have used 7142 gals,the 18 mpg 5555 gals.At $4/gal it will have saved $6350.I don't think $6350 will pay the difference between a hybrid and a regular vehicle.There will be a BIG markup on the 1st true hybrid trucks.My guess is that you will have to pay at least $10,000 more for the 1st year or two.Evidence-take a look at the Prius.They are selling-new,and lightly used-on Ebay for $25,000-$31,000(list is about $21000-$25000).They were selling for about $29000 on average during the fuel price runup,went down to about $26,500,and now are probably moving back up again.They are about equivalent to a fancy Corolla(but a little slower).You can get a hell of a Corolla for $17,000.Even if you think they are more like a Camry or Accord,you can get a loaded 4cyl of either one of them for $20,000.My point-if you can buy the gas motor version for $30,000,it will take $40000 to get the Hybrid.
GoCougsKev,what kind of Titan are you going to get for $40,000???You can get a loaded Titan LE 4X4-with everything,Nav,sunroof etc-for $34,000 or so.Adam Smith-new-nissans.com one of our new sponsors would sell a 4x2 LE CC side curtains,and Big Tow for ~$28,500-4x4 adds $3000,nav,sun about $3000 more,so what are you planning to buy??It might be smart not to dump so much $$$ into the vehicle to begin with,if you are concerned with resale.A $35000 LE and a $17000 XE will have very close to the same resale at 200,000 miles-maybe $3000 for the LE,$1500 for the SE.With the rebates on the 04's,you can get a really loaded 4X4 SE for under $30,000!!
Well,I have run on.It will take a long time to recoup(from MPG savings) the extra $10,000 a Hybrid will cost.A good Diesel should be close to the same cost as a gas truck,but it won't be.Supply and demand will price the Diesels waaay above the gas engined trucks.Luck,Charlie
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