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Old 07-26-2005, 09:09 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 92TripleBlack
I agree. This is pretty out of line. I'd much rather see a truck lifted, and still be a truck, than lowered, or worse. slammed. Might as well tow it to a crusher after that.
Amen. Where did that loose lug nut comment come from? I've been offroading for twenty-five years. I use arched leaf spring suspension lift combined with separate body lift spacers between body and frame to get the truck up and articulating shackles to get axle droop to keep both wheels of the same axle on the ground. You can't even use ladder bars with this kind of very typical serious off-road setup.

Some guys I wheel with have as much as six inches of blocks for rear lift. (I admit that blocks on the front of a front leaf spring axle are not a good thing). I've never, never, in twenty five years seen anyone have a properly torqued block rear lift come loose and never, never seen anyone have a problem with lug nuts coming loose, even when we are doing things many would consider insane.

With very high horsepower indiscriminately applied, axle wrap can be a problem, but there are better ways to address that than ladder bars anyway.

We break axles. We break steering linkage. We break universal joints. We break brake lines that may come into contact with something under the truck. Serious off-roading is rough on the weak links in the drive train.

I've even had a rock punch a hole in the oil filter on my jeep (not protected by any of the many skidplates) and had all the oil pour out on the ground. Had to let it sit where it was, get one of the other guys drive me to town, get another filter and oil and replace it all and drive away. I now carry a second filter and enough extra oil to change.

But we do not get loose lug nuts. Even drum brakes on 15 inch wheels can and do stop trucks with tires much larger than 35 inches just fine. Will they stop a truck as quickly at 85 miles per hour on the Interstate as our new Nissans - no. But in an off-road environment or driving at sensible speeds - just fine, thank you.

I don't think the poster has really spent much times in the dirt, sand, mud and woods with real four-wheelers.
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