As I am squeezing the Glock trigger my wrist is breaking to the right a little bit and I seem to miss center just to the right. Which may not be a bad thing because if I am aiming dead center of a man's chest and I actually hit just an inch to the right it will hit the heart. Kind of a morbid thought.
I had a Glock 19, and was very surprised at how accurate it was. It also
seemed safe to carry with a round in the chamber, and no safety to worry
about fiddling with in a panic. Good luck getting used to that trigger pull.
It just feels weird. One of the local gunsmiths here is a certified Glock
Armorer, and he advertises a 3.5 lb trigger for $30. Probably a very
simple conversion. I don't think I'd ever be able to shoot a one hole group
with a Glock, regardless of trigger mods. If you are keeping them all in the
black at 50 feet, that would satisfy me for a carry weapon. Any further
than that, I'll count on my Nike's!
I usually have the target at the 25-foot mark and no further. I have read that the majority of self defense gun battles occur within a 10-feet. My groupings with the Glock are not that great, but the gun seems to be far more reliable than my current 1911's. Nothing could be worse than having a weapon jam in time of need. I think about that sometimes when at the range and a round jams on the feed ramp and the time it takes to clear it. That would be a scarey feeling.
Is that a 19? I would advise you to not make any sudden moves if you
happen to get pulled over. When I worked in Newport News, they had
open carry laws there, but some of the cops still get a little nervous
when they see one in plain sight. I would prefer that they not see it at
all until I notified them about my permit. I also wonder if they can tell
if you may be packing when they run your plate. The last time I got
pulled over, the officer acted like he didn't want to approach my window.
However, he was very nice and just checked my license and told me to
watch my speed.
John, I hope you remove that nice weapon when you exit the vehicle.
Lon, how do you act when you see a hog leg out in the open?
Steve
Steve,
I dont usually notify officers about it when I hit road blocks or regular traffic stops unless they ask me to exit the vehicle. My leg covers it up from the drivers side window so they would not be able to see it.
I'm more of a shotgun and long rifle guy than pistols, but I do have a Beretta 92F (Before they made FS and FD.) I also have a Ruger Gov Target Comp Model Mark II that is a great target pistol, even got a red dot sight for it. Other than that I have an assortment of shotguns and centerfire rifles.
I usually have the target at the 25-foot mark and no further. I have read that the majority of self defense gun battles occur within a 10-feet. My groupings with the Glock are not that great, but the gun seems to be far more reliable than my current 1911's. Nothing could be worse than having a weapon jam in time of need. I think about that sometimes when at the range and a round jams on the feed ramp and the time it takes to clear it. That would be a scarey feeling.
A lot of what you are describing is what led me to carrying the S&W 360.
Revolvers aren't as accurate, and don't hold as many rounds, but they
damn sure work when you need them to. Another advantage is the weight.
I can wear the little Smith all day without it becoming a bother. And most
gun battles are up close and last about 3 seconds. At home, the little gun
lies unloaded in a drawer. The Remington 870 pump is what I'll grab if the
situation calls for it (like a invasion of crazed California pot heads).
I read an interview one time with a leading self defense expert, and they
asked him what was the best gun for personal protection. He stated that
any gun you can get your hands on was the best choice. Whatever you
are willing to carry the most often will be the deciding factor.
Nice target pistol, Sammy. Did you do anything with the trigger?
You should check out Volquartsen's website for some of the variations
they have on the Ruger.
I don't carry a revolver for self defense because they are much more complicated than a well made semi- auto. When you take one apart you can see how intricate the mechanism is. Just the timing of the cylinder so it lines up with the barrel is enough to make you head spin. A .45 with a well throated chamber should not jam.
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Had to close out the last post early because someone was at the door. Anyway, I carry a lightweight officers model .45. It is light in weight, very concealable and packs a good punch. It does take practice to be good because it is short and light.The key to whatever weapon you decide to carry is the amount of confidence you have in the weapon.
Nice target pistol, Sammy. Did you do anything with the trigger?
You should check out Volquartsen's website for some of the variations
they have on the Ruger.
Also, what kind of red dot did you go with?
Steve
Thanks, I really like it, nice and heavy with molded wood grips. I don't recall the brand of red dot. I bought it off and old roomate who had it on a 44 mag, it kept loosening up every time he fired it. It's pretty good for acquiring targets for rapid fire, however I still prefer the iron sights for accuracy. My next gun purchase will probably be a compact Beretta, as my 92 is just too bulky to carry.
I don't carry a revolver for self defense because they are much more complicated than a well made semi- auto. When you take one apart you can see how intricate the mechanism is. Just the timing of the cylinder so it lines up with the barrel is enough to make you head spin. A .45 with a well throated chamber should not jam.
Are you trying to say that an automatic is more reliable than a revolver?
I would like to see some statistics on that. Most of the law enforcement
agencies that have switched to autos have done so to get higher capacity,
not greater reliability.
A .45 that is clean, properly lubricated, and loaded with ball ammo should
work every time. But more reliable than a good revolver? I don't think so.
I'd have to agree with Steve on that. Jamming with a revolver is all but impossible, you can't say the same for a auto loader. Each has it's advantages, I still prefer a semi auto just for its larger capacity and ease of reloading. I've only experienced jams with my Beretta when using cheap reloads, and that was only once. However, like Steve said it depends on whether or not the operator keeps the weapon clean and lubed.
The sweetest most accurate handgun I have ever used was a S&W 686 .357 Mag. with a 6" barrel using .38 spl. loads. In the right hands and with speed loaders in the belt I have seen guys fire and reload revolvers as quickly as some can use a semi auto.
It's pretty good for acquiring targets for rapid fire, however I still prefer the iron sights for accuracy. My next gun purchase will probably be a compact Beretta, as my 92 is just too bulky to carry.
It must be a fairly large dot if you prefer the iron sights for accuracy. Wait
until you get old and have to start depending on those optical enhancements!
I recently purchased a Ultra Dot Match Dot that lets you change the size
of the dot. I don't like anything bigger than a 3 moa for target shooting.
One of the old guys in our club uses a 10x pistol scope on a S&W 41. The
rest of us can't figure out how in the hell he can hold it steady enough to
shoot.
If you are looking for an auto to carry, Keltec nows makes their little back
up pistol in .380, designated as the P-3AT. Only weighs 7.2 oz's unloaded,
and will ride quite comfortably in your pocket. I debated on getting one
when it was only offered in .32, but the new model is more appealing.
One of my friends has one, but I haven't had the chance to shoot it yet.
He said is has a pretty good kick to it.
I have owned my sig for around 10 years. I probably shoot 1,000 rounds per year and have never had it malfunction or misfire. I clean it when I spill coffee on it but that is about it.
I prefer a semi-auto but find nothing wrong with a nice wheel gun.
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