I have owned my sig for around 10 years. I probably shoot 1,000 rounds per year and have never had it malfunction or misfire. I clean it when I spill coffee on it but that is about it.
I prefer a semi-auto but find nothing wrong with a nice wheel gun.
What about the colt python?
Nuck
I walked into a Sig dealer when Clinton was still President, and was told
they were limiting their sales of Sig pistols to law enforcement only. Since then I have never purchased anything from that dealer or considered purchasing one of their pistols. They can kiss my ***. A fine weapon from
what I hear, though. I'll give my business to companies like Kimber and
Beretta that had the balls to stand up to the democrats. I wouldn't even
buy another S&W until Saf-T-Hammer bought the company back from the
British.
The old Colt Python was arguably the finest revolver ever made. It was
very accurate, due in great part to the very tight lock up of the cylinder.
The drawback was that the gun tended to break the little hand that
rotates the cylinder. The last Colt I owned was a .380 Mustang, and it
started to develop a wear problem around the slide stop. I guess Colt
forgot how to harden steel. I doubt if any of the new Colts are of the
same quality of the old ones. Colt has had some hard times in recent years.
Yes, I am saying that a semi-auto is more reliable that a revolver.
I was on TDY with the DSA in the 80's. Thet have a lot of ex Secret Service people on their staff. What the Agents told me is that if a revolver the most reliable weapon then they would have used it. After all they are protecting the President and need the most reliable first shot they can get.....They don't use revolvers.I have a lot of revolvers, mainly S&W, The cylinder can get jammed in many ways. A well used revolver will eventually have timing issues, having shaved lead spit back in your face from a mis alinged Cylinder is not fun. The First thing the DSA tought when guarding someone is to forget drawing your weapon when you see someone drawing down on your principle, what you do if he has a revolver is to grab the revolver by the top rail a closing your had around the cylinder. The weapon cannot fire (unless of course he has the hammer ****ed). On the subject of the Python. I agree it is a fine weapon, the only major draw back as far as I am concerned is that the frame is to light to stand a steady diet of .357's.
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Pagerdaddy, I have been keeping up with SIG pistols for atleast 12 years and I have never had a single person or dealer tell me the same thing you heard. Was it your dealer or sig you think? I probably go into a sporting goods store atleast 3-4 times per week and just hang out for 15 or 20 min and have been doing that for as long as I can remember. Not saying you are not telling the truth but this comes as a shock to me.
Its plain to me that the times have changed with respect firearm owners. It seems all the interest now with enthusiasts is in concealable or high power handguns. I grew up with target shooting and hunting as the main use for firearms with emphasis on long guns. Just an old fart observation, no flame intended but interesting none the less.
It must be a fairly large dot if you prefer the iron sights for accuracy. Wait until you get old and have to start depending on those optical enhancements!
Steve
Well the red dot isn't magnified, just 0x. You can adjust the dot on it, but I still prefer iron sights, probably more out of habit than anything else. I'm sure if I shot enough with the red dot it would grow on me.
With the exception of my skeet and sporting clays shotguns all my rimfire
and centerfire firearms now have some type of optics on them, whether it
be a red dot, rifle scope, or HOLOsight. As much as I love iron sights,
the eyes are the first to go, or it that the second?
My grandfather always preached to me "****ed and locked", but I too never felt very comfortable with that. I keep a fully loaded magazine and the chamber empty. It doesn't take long to chamber a round.
It doesn't take long for a hostile attacker to close in on you either...not preaching, just saying...
I forget what the exact measurement was, but it takes something like 7 seconds for a determined, violent attacker to close 21 feet on you. During a violent attack, gross motor skills go south, adrenaline is pumping, you're probably scared poopless, racking the slide and lining the sights up ain't gonna be easy. The Israelis advocate empty chamber carry, but they probably practice, practice, practice, and practice every day at racking the slide and getting the weapon hot for the time when they'll really need it. I carry a 1911 from time to time, with one in the tube, the hammer back, and the safety on. Just food for thought.
Well the red dot isn't magnified, just 0x. You can adjust the dot on it, but I still prefer iron sights, probably more out of habit than anything else. I'm sure if I shot enough with the red dot it would grow on me.
Sammy,
I'm sure you know this, but an added advantage to the red dot like Aimpoint is that you can keep both eyes open, wherever the dot is, your shot goes, = rapid target acquisition. My set up allows for both but once sighted in, I'm only using the red dot now.
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Great thread. I used to shoot with my dad, but it's been years. My uncle, a detective, tells me he really likes Glock handguns. I was thinking of a .40 or .45 Glock. Can anyone point me to a model number or more info?
I'm sure you know this, but an added advantage to the red dot like Aimpoint is that you can keep both eyes open, wherever the dot is, your shot goes, = rapid target acquisition. My set up allows for both but once sighted in, I'm only using the red dot now.
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And you were sure right. I know the advantage of a red dot, I was just saying I've become so accustomed to shooting iron sights with pistols that it's difficult to readjust to something new. (also considering every weapon I've every had to qualify with for the Army was iron sites only) I haven't shot that pistol in a long time, but hopefully I'll get back into it and put the red dot to use.
It doesn't take long for a hostile attacker to close in on you either...not preaching, just saying...
I forget what the exact measurement was, but it takes something like 7 seconds for a determined, violent attacker to close 21 feet on you. During a violent attack, gross motor skills go south, adrenaline is pumping, you're probably scared poopless, racking the slide and lining the sights up ain't gonna be easy. The Israelis advocate empty chamber carry, but they probably practice, practice, practice, and practice every day at racking the slide and getting the weapon hot for the time when they'll really need it. I carry a 1911 from time to time, with one in the tube, the hammer back, and the safety on. Just food for thought.
I totally agree with you, but in my personal life and even as much as I love all types of firearms (I started this thread), I never carry a weapon of any kind (not even a pocket knife). The only time I have my handgun is when I am going to the range on occasions and it stays buried in the range bag. In my environment I feel confident and unfraid of my surroundings, but I wasn't always like that as I used to carry the .45 every where. Perhaps many years of Thai kickboxing makes me feel more secure than I really am, but again I agree if you are going to carry a weapon keep it ready for defense.
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Pagerdaddy, I have been keeping up with SIG pistols for atleast 12 years and I have never had a single person or dealer tell me the same thing you heard. Was it your dealer or sig you think? I probably go into a sporting goods store atleast 3-4 times per week and just hang out for 15 or 20 min and have been doing that for as long as I can remember. Not saying you are not telling the truth but this comes as a shock to me.
Nuck
Nuck, I don't know if it was something the dealer came up with on his own,
or if it was a short term bad decision on Sig's part. He had all of his Sig pistols
in a different showcase, and when I went over to look at them, he gave me
that line about "law enforcement only". This dealer is buddy-buddy with a lot
of deputies and such, and I hear that not everything going on there is legit.
I had only been in that store a couple of times, and have not been back since.
I did have occasion to contact Sig a few years ago concerning the clip on
my Hammerli target pistol that they import. They were nice to me and very
helpful. I may eventually get over the bad taste for Sig that one of their
dealers gave me. I know a retired detective from my area that works part
time in a gun store, and he swears by Sig Arms. I haven't had a need for
one, as most of my pistols are used for bullseye shooting, and I haven't
seen anything I'd rather carry than my Smith that would match it's power
and light weight. I may eventually get on of the little Keltecs, simply because
you don't need a holster for it.
Probably Ruger is one of the better manufacturers of revolvers now days.
Wouldn't you think?
I owned a GP100 years ago and noticed the grip was loose on it. It cracked
when I tightened it up, as they had located the dowel sticking out further
on one side. I also broke the rear sight blade on it.
I called them up, and they sent me a brand new set of grips and a complete
rear sight free of charge. Didn't even have to send back the broken parts.
Ruger may be just a little less top of the line than some others, but their
customer service puts many to shame.
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