I can't figure why the BOSS hasn't caught on more than it has. From my expirience, It seems to be the best thing out there.
I can't fiqure it out either, my next rifle will also have a boss on it. I don't know any other gun out there where you can grab any premium ammo, and shot better than .05 moa. Measuring from center to center my 2nd to last group was less than 3/4 of an inch at 200 yards. That is actually less than 0.5 moa. And I am by no means a professional shooter.
The boss system is more expensive than a regular browning(which aint cheap to start with). Also, the regular browning rifle shoots accurately enough that the extra isn't worth it too many folks(at least for me).
I agree. The only downside I see is the noise with the muzzle brake and I fixed that with CR version. On a whim, I just bought a Weatherby 300WSM out of there custom shop. The test group that came with the rifle is one hole. I can't wait to try it out. I planned on buying a Cooper .22 (guaranteed 1/4 inch groups @ 50 yds)and when they didn't have one, came home with a Weatherby. Figure that one out.
Just wondering, what do you consider accurate enough?
As accurate as I and the gun can shoot. I sometimes shoot out to 500 yards, and if I can't shoot under 1 moa than it isn't accurate enough. 5"'s is about all the error I can stand to make a clean kill. Then you factor in a not perfect rest, and youre elevated heart rate, and that 5" turns into 7-8". If I can shoot a 2.5 inch group at 500 yards that leaves me some room for error in a hunting situation.
Accurate enough to me means a good clean kill. I guess if you are shooting 500 yards like helomech the extra accuracy of the boss may be significant, but for me it is just not worth it. Shoot, I would be lucky to get a 75 yard shot off on the land I hunt, it is just too thick. As long as I can hit the vitals, then it is accurate enough for me. A lot of the accuracy of a gun depends on the shooter. I know when I get a chance to shoot any game my heart starts racing and I get excited. I know if I ever loose that feeling of excitement it will be time to put the guns away and quit hunting.
helo I put my chrony away a long time ago. It just isn't that important to me anymore. I load to pressure signs and then accuracy with a given bullet and powder/primer combo. Once I get to the point and there is no use trying for better I work strictly on accuracy. Most of my hunting is done with-in 200 yards or less and at those distances deer can't tell the difference between 2800 and 3100fps. They will still be dead.
What a chrony does tell you is how well your loading techique is. well in away. it can measure your standard deviation between each round which tells you how constistent your loading is.
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I have a Browning A-bolt .270 w/o the BOSS, and I consistently shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Federal Premium 150 grain Sierra Boat Tails. For me - that's plenty accurate enough. Farthest shot on a deer ever was 337 steps at a doe. It was a clean kill, but in retrospect I shouldn't have taken the shot - it was just a bit too far. Out of the last 10 deer I have shot, all but 1 were shot under 100 yards.
The above info, plus the freaking noise from a BOSS, is why I do not feel the BOSS is necessary on your average hunting rifle.
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helo I put my chrony away a long time ago. It just isn't that important to me anymore. I load to pressure signs and then accuracy with a given bullet and powder/primer combo. Once I get to the point and there is no use trying for better I work strictly on accuracy. Most of my hunting is done with-in 200 yards or less and at those distances deer can't tell the difference between 2800 and 3100fps. They will still be dead.
What a chrony does tell you is how well your loading techique is. well in away. it can measure your standard deviation between each round which tells you how constistent your loading is.
How do you determine bullet trajectory without knowing the exact fps? I want to be able to calculate my bullet drop with good accuracy. I know the coeffeicent, and the grain, but I need to know velocity to determine drop.
I have a Browning A-bolt .270 w/o the BOSS, and I consistently shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with Federal Premium 150 grain Sierra Boat Tails. For me - that's plenty accurate enough. Farthest shot on a deer ever was 337 steps at a doe. It was a clean kill, but in retrospect I shouldn't have taken the shot - it was just a bit too far. Out of the last 10 deer I have shot, all but 1 were shot under 100 yards.
The above info, plus the freaking noise from a BOSS, is why I do not feel the BOSS is necessary on your average hunting rifle.
The guns come with two boss's, one for recoil reduction and that one makes it appear louder, and one without the ports that is no different in sound of a regular rifle. My longest shot to date was 450 yards, and it hit exactly where I wanted. The 7 point fell in its tracks. 500 yards is all I feel comfortable with using a .30-06.
How do you determine bullet trajectory without knowing the exact fps? I want to be able to calculate my bullet drop with good accuracy. I know the coeffeicent, and the grain, but I need to know velocity to determine drop.
I shoot the gun with that load. Not to be smart a$$ but once I get a load that I like that key holes 5 shots at 100 yards I head to the 300 yard range on public day. There I can shoot from 0 to 300 yards. It's a lot more fun doing it than figuring it out on paper
I have balistic calculators comeing out my ears, I just don't use them any more. with varying air temps and no bullet will give you an exact drop just from speed, it will get you close but you still need to shoot the load. I learned shooting the load is far more accurate than any calculator. I used to worry about all that stuff but I learned it's more fun just to get a accurate load and learn were it shoots by getting out there and shooting.
My shoot'n buddy drags out the chrony every time we shoot and I run a few rounds through it just for the heck of it. When I get a new gun I always check the MV just so I have an idea but I don't work from there.
I shoot the gun with that load. Not to be smart a$$ but once I get a load that I like that key holes 5 shots at 100 yards I head to the 300 yard range on public day. There I can shoot from 0 to 300 yards. It's a lot more fun doing it than figuring it out on paper
I have balistic calculators comeing out my ears, I just don't use them any more. with varying air temps and no bullet will give you an exact drop just from speed, it will get you close but you still need to shoot the load. I learned shooting the load is far more accurate than any calculator. I used to worry about all that stuff but I learned it's more fun just to get a accurate load and learn were it shoots by getting out there and shooting.
My shoot'n buddy drags out the chrony every time we shoot and I run a few rounds through it just for the heck of it. When I get a new gun I always check the MV just so I have an idea but I don't work from there.
I shoot alot, I have a 300 yard range on the side of my house. I guess I could do it that way. Thanks.
05-08-2008, 07:30 PM
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