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Old 10-31-2009, 11:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Didn't cost me anything??



QUOTE=rholland;1904620]Cash for clunkers was a big, well run success, it only cost the tax payers of America $24,000 per vehicle traded in.



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Yes, thank you Bush Jr. for that Patriot Act!



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Yes, kind of like this War on Terrorism we're still in!



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It appears to have been another government "feel good" program with no real lasting benefit for the money spent other than to add to the growing deficit.

As usual, the taxpayers did not get their dollars worth.

But hey, it feels good so it must be a success.
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Didn't cost me anything??
It did me, I pay taxes!!!

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Yes, thank you Bush Jr. for that Patriot Act!
The Patriot hasn’t hurt me, all these terrorist that are being caught in this country is because of the Patriot Act.

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Yes, kind of like this War on Terrorism we're still in!
We can fight them over there or we can fight them here, I prefer over there.
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We can fight them over there or we can fight them here, I prefer over there.
Here is a good argument regarding that very thing and if you notice, the Federal Government isn't really fighting to win a war over there and never even declared war in the first place but rather they are doing something far different and have been for a very long time.

Blow the crap out of that place and set up a guard around the oil fields and send everyone else come home, or if you can't justify blowing the place to hell and gone or guarding the oil fields, just send our troops home.

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I pay taxes every year too. Doesn't matter if its a cash for clunkers year or not

What terrorists being caught in this country?? Terrorism is a made up word. If I was going to call someone that I'd start with Bernie Madoff, or AIG, or Walmart, or **** Cheney making billions with this war through Halliburton. That's true terrorism. How about someone not being provided with their medical insurance benefits because they say its an existing condition. Or, if you file again we'll drop you. Or, $100 a pill to stay alive. That's true Terrorism..


Yes, we can fight them over there. But I ask how would you feel is someone showed up in our country with the Army and starting fighting. You/I would rebel as well. We'd all look like terrorists as well. Do you have any idea why we are there? Or are you just once again trusting our Repub's? We need to be out there, period



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The Patriot hasn’t hurt me, all these terrorist that are being caught in this country is because of the Patriot Act.


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Yes, thank you Bush Jr. for that Patriot Act!
Wake up buddy:

The Patriot Act was passed by Congress and was new and improved re-upped in 2006 with both Biden and Obama voting YEA, as well as Kerry, Clinton, Boxer, Dodd, Durbin, Kennedy, Reid, Rockefeller, Schumer, and most of the other liberal Democrats who whine so loudly about it.

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Vote Summary Question: On the Conference Report (H.R. 3199 Conference Report ) Vote Number: 29 Vote Date: March 2, 2006, 03:01 PM Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Conference Report Agreed to Measure Number: H.R. 3199 (USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 ) Measure Title:A bill to extend and modify authorities needed to combat terrorism, and for other purposes. Vote Counts:YEAs89
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Not Voting1 Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote PositionBy Home State Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
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Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
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Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Talent (R-MO), Yea
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Do you have any idea why we are there? Or are you just once again trusting our Repub's? We need to be out there, period
You don't trust the "Repub's", try this guy. He says why we're there.


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At that time the entire country was being fed complete garbage about what grave danger we were all in. Only to find out that all of that "intelligence" was nothing but lies.

P.S. I'm not a liberal democrat. I'm a soldier in the military willing to fight/die for our country when it is in the best interest of our country.



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Wake up buddy:

The Patriot Act was passed by Congress and was new and improved re-upped in 2006 with both Biden and Obama voting YEA, as well as Kerry, Clinton, Boxer, Dodd, Durbin, Kennedy, Reid, Rockefeller, Schumer, and most of the other liberal Democrats who whine so loudly about it.

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Vote Summary Question: On the Conference Report (H.R. 3199 Conference Report ) Vote Number: 29 Vote Date: March 2, 2006, 03:01 PM Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Conference Report Agreed to Measure Number: H.R. 3199 (USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 ) Measure Title:A bill to extend and modify authorities needed to combat terrorism, and for other purposes. Vote Counts:YEAs89
NAYs10
Not Voting1 Vote SummaryBy Senator NameBy Vote PositionBy Home State Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Not Voting
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Talent (R-MO), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
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Yes we know why we're all there. We're selfish American's. We're there for Oil, money and fear. Not this made up word of Terrorism


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This was made up?

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What, in 2006?
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LOL. Bring out the 911

Wake up Super Moderator,

Try this link,
CNN.com - U.S. deaths in Iraq,*war on terror surpass 9/11 toll - Sep 3, 2006

Then try this link,
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Then try this video, Zeitgeist
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What 2006 wasn't a warfest?? I suppose were not at war now either??



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Wake up Super Moderator,

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Then try this link,
Iraq Body Count

Then try this video, Zeitgeist
You are what you eat. Just how many Hemi's have you eaten?



Iraq isn't the only war. Where's your Afghanistan death count?

So, using your logic, should we have quit fighting WWII when the death count surpassed Pearl Harbor?

And it wasn't just 911, watch the video, that is, if it doesn't exceed your attention span.
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