Gentlemen, Start your engines: 0-60 Times; Titan vs. Hemi vs. F150

DallasTitan · 05-16-2004, 10:27 PM

Let me begin by saying that no matter how smooth Ford says their engine is, or how powerful the Dodge says their engine is, it all comes down to one thing: 0-60 times!

Here's what I've found so far:

Car and Driver:
Titan SE CC: 6.9 sec
Hemi QC: 7.1 sec
F150 XLT 5.4: 8.9 sec

Automobile magazine:
Titan LE CC: 7.8 sec
Hemi Laramie QC: 7.9 sec
F150 SuperCrew lariat: 9.4 sec

MotorTrend(truck of the year test):
Titan SE CC: 7.2 sec
Dodge SRT Ram: 4.8 sec (Hemi Reg Cab tested previously: 6.8 sec)
F150 SuperCrew lariat: 8.4 sec

TruckWorld.com:
Titan SE CC 4x4: 7.4 sec
Hemi Laramie QC 4x4: 8.2 sec
F150 SupCrew XLT 4x4: 9.1 sec

With all these tests proving the Titan is the Undisputed leader, what is Dodge talking about

?(in their commercial about Hemi beating Titan and others in an "Independent" test?!!!)

D-Titan

bestatchess · 05-16-2004, 10:32 PM

That Dodge SRT at 4.8 must have the Coke bottle mod!

TITAN21 · 05-17-2004, 01:55 AM

hahaha, that coke bottle mod joke will never get old for me, i laugh everytime someone posts anything about it. yah im gonna post that over at the dodge forums and see what they say. it'll be the same thing they say everytime "we'll see what happens in the real world!!"

bvstone1 · 05-17-2004, 05:35 AM

I told my neighbor to do the new coke bottle mode. He bought a used Silverado for his business and it has dual pipes and no cat. But he said the check engine light is always on. I told him "just put your CO2 sensor in a coke bottle and it should shut off..." LOL!

JS02 · 05-17-2004, 05:59 AM

If anyone does any research with comparison times you would have to look a long time to find a hemi winning any side by side comparisons in the trucks or suv's. The 6.8 time that was recorded with the RC hemi that I saw was still beat by a Silverado SS. Power ratings are about the same but the SS is a loaded extended cab with AWD. The hemi was 2WD. Some tracks and conditions will make the times better. An Armada beat a Dodge Durango hemi 0-60 even though it weighed 300# more. The Durango did edge it out in the 1/4 but it was close. There is no doubt that the hemi makes a lot of power. It just seems to make most of it in the top of it's power range. That's fine to race with but sure is not the best for a truck engine. It just seems that it is overhyped so much by DC.

DallasTitan · 05-17-2004, 08:04 AM

Right on the money JS02!

D-Titan

Davace97 · 05-17-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JS02

If anyone does any research with comparison times you would have to look a long time to find a hemi winning any side by side comparisons in the trucks or suv's. The 6.8 time that was recorded with the RC hemi that I saw was still beat by a Silverado SS. Power ratings are about the same but the SS is a loaded extended cab with AWD. The hemi was 2WD. Some tracks and conditions will make the times better. An Armada beat a Dodge Durango hemi 0-60 even though it weighed 300# more. The Durango did edge it out in the 1/4 but it was close. There is no doubt that the hemi makes a lot of power. It just seems to make most of it in the top of it's power range. That's fine to race with but sure is not the best for a truck engine. It just seems that it is overhyped so much by DC.

Exactly. Hemi always was a race engine. 440 was always the Chrysler to beat on the street. Oh by the way DC, original Hemi was 426 CI. Your current wanna be is a Hemlette at best.

Steve04SE · 05-24-2004, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Davace97

Exactly. Hemi always was a race engine. 440 was always the Chrysler to beat on the street. Oh by the way DC, original Hemi was 426 CI. Your current wanna be is a Hemlette at best.

FWIW, the forerunner to the 426 HEMI was the 392 HEMI, found in the 300-series Chryslers in the late 50's, early 60's.

JoeyCrack · 05-25-2004, 02:45 PM

I am curious has anyone actually found out how dodge is able to advertise the "out runs and out hauls anything" comments? I find it odd that with all this proof against them they can say such a thing....I suppose money talks though

TrojanDan · 05-25-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyCrack

I am curious has anyone actually found out how dodge is able to advertise the "out runs and out hauls anything" comments? I find it odd that with all this proof against them they can say such a thing....I suppose money talks though

They must mean that the SRT-10 Ram can outrun anything. Then, by default, they guess that it could outhual anything b/c it would outrun everything so bad? I'm just guessin here, I could be way off.

TITAN21 · 05-26-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanDan

They must mean that the SRT-10 Ram can outrun anything. Then, by default, they guess that it could outhual anything b/c it would outrun everything so bad? I'm just guessin here, I could be way off.

has anyone out there test driven the srt-10 yet?

BudmanHemi · 05-27-2004, 01:42 PM

First off magazines are a joke. I believe the 7.1, 0 to 60 for the QC. That dont explain my 4x4 5100lb hemi running 15.1 in the quarter when all mag results are wrong. Titans have also proved it wrong running 15.2's at the track. I have said it on DTW, and i will say it here. Mag's are crap. Track shows it. On street from mash, and go Titan gets the hemi. If you let a hemi rev up, and he dont spin he's gonna get a titan. At the track it shows that, and it dont take a genius too figure it out. Pourdoune didnt set the drag record in his chevy with a hemi in it for nothing. The engine was created for nascar because of its high reving charactistics. When others were running around the track at 9k rpms and maxed. The hemi was running around at 7k. Its why the hemi is notorious in drag racing. Stall it too 3k with some slicks, and the R's are there. Honestly does it really matter if you lose or win by a half of truck length? All as i know is i overloaded my hemi many times, and she just hauls fine regardless of where the power range is. Thats what matters in trucks.

sleightofhand · 05-27-2004, 10:16 PM

In real world driving who wins a race is who pushes the gas first. Now if i was nissan i would put a commercial that has it out running the rest and simply put motor trend, car and driver etc as their independent testers. Its very easy to discredit dodges results. Everyone that wins motortrend truck of the year usually uses that in their adds. I dont know how much it matters as all trucks are now pretty fast. Look at trucks of a few years ago, my 00 ram with 360 v8 was rated at 10 flat 0-60. My titan feels pretty fast to me but it doesnt amaze me by any means. My buddys 01 f150 isnt much slower when i race him, i think i have seen those rated at 8.5 in magizines.
As far as magizines not being crap, well what ever someone believes is what they believe. They are pros and they do use very good equipment to find their results. They drive the trucks the same so the results are equal, if they stalled one truck to 3000rpm they would have to figure out what worked best with all of them and that wouldnt do the consumer much good. They have to drive within their designed tolerances, so just stand on the gas and see what the results are. They do test manual trannys like you say you drive your dodge at the track but with an auto i personally would rather them stand on the gas and give me the result.

*calgary_redneck* · 06-02-2004, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BudmanHemi

First off magazines are a joke. I believe the 7.1, 0 to 60 for the QC. That dont explain my 4x4 5100lb hemi running 15.1 in the quarter when all mag results are wrong. Titans have also proved it wrong running 15.2's at the track. I have said it on DTW, and i will say it here. Mag's are crap. Track shows it. On street from mash, and go Titan gets the hemi. If you let a hemi rev up, and he dont spin he's gonna get a titan. At the track it shows that, and it dont take a genius too figure it out. Pourdoune didnt set the drag record in his chevy with a hemi in it for nothing. The engine was created for nascar because of its high reving charactistics. When others were running around the track at 9k rpms and maxed. The hemi was running around at 7k. Its why the hemi is notorious in drag racing. Stall it too 3k with some slicks, and the R's are there. Honestly does it really matter if you lose or win by a half of truck length? All as i know is i overloaded my hemi many times, and she just hauls fine regardless of where the power range is. Thats what matters in trucks.

There is alot of misunderstanding about the hemi: first of all the 426 hemi is in no way related to the new 5.7L hemi they are competely different engines. The rights to the hemi name is owned buy dodge how ever many of modern cars engines could arguably be a hemi type design. As was was stated on one of the other forums and I competely agree with Dodges advertising campain has definetly been gears towards the less informed indiviguals.

TrojanDan · 06-02-2004, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by calgary_redneck

As was was stated on one of the other forums and I competely agree with Dodges advertising campain has definetly been gears towards the less informed indiviguals.

I said that on another thread. I believe they are marketing (BIGTIME) to 1st time truck buyers. A ferd or chebbie owner that loves his truck won't buy into all the hemi-hype. But a 1st time truck buyer or someone who knows nothing about cars and doesn't do research will bite hook, line and sinker. I think it is also great fuel for die-hard Dodge guys, when they're braggin about their trucks. But facts are facts, and the facts, time and time again, show the Endurance V8 out-doin the hemi. Can't deny that Dodge has a great advertising team.