I'm speechless

Slurppie · 08-14-2004, 09:45 AM

Not starting a flame war...I just saw on Road and Track that the new Saturn Vue uses a Honda motor.

Bayou Titan · 08-14-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Slurppie

Not starting a flame war...I just saw on Road and Track that the new Saturn Vue uses a Honda motor.

Not on most Vue's, just the Sport model. That kinda surprised me when I read that. I thought GM had an alliance with Toyota and would use their engine. By the way, were you aware that Nissan is going to use Toyota's hybrid engine technology in their Altima. Nissan doesn't have the $$$,$$$,$$$'s to develop their own.

Slurppie · 08-14-2004, 01:09 PM

I'm all for shared technology, sorta like Open Source code.

Sammy Sandbag · 08-14-2004, 01:26 PM

Well there was a partnership between Honda and Izuzu for the Passport, and GM and Izuzu have a partnership sharing the same vehicles (S-10, and now the Trail Blazer). This is sorta like 7 degrees to Kevin Bacon or something.

rvandam · 08-14-2004, 04:14 PM

Wasn't the engine in the old Ford Taurus SVT a Yamaha?

Slurppie · 08-14-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rvandam

Wasn't the engine in the old Ford Taurus SVT a Yamaha?

Yup! Speaking of Yamaha, WERA GNF is coming 10/12 - 12/17 at Road A.

PHOEBISIS · 08-14-2004, 05:38 PM

I read about this trade several months ago.GM traded some small diesel motors(suitable for cars I guess) from one of it's Euro companies to get those Honda V-6's and the Honda 5 speed auto.Honda apparently has no diesel motors??
The Honda combo will be in all V-6 VUES;the GM V-6 won't be available.The little VUE is about as quick- 7.4 I think-as our Titan.Claiming 250 hp in it;the Pilot has 240 hp.
I have that motor in the Pilot,and it is a good running motor-plenty quick for a 4400 lb SUV-the Moto mags claim about 8.2 0-60.The city mpg is pitiful`14 mpg,but we got an honest 22+ mpg on a 3000 mile trip a couple of weeks ago.Thanks,Charlie

ßaller · 08-14-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayou Titan

Not on most Vue's just the Sport model. That kinda surprised me when I read that. I thought GM had an alliance with Toyota and would use their engine. By the way, were you aware that Nissan is going to use Toyota's hybrid engine technology in their Altima. Nissan doesn't have the $$$,$$$,$$$'s to develop their own.

Well, yeah Nissans pocket is not as deep as Toys, but Nissans is building their own engine to coincide with Toys hybrid technology....blah blah blah. I know I am being picky on words, but lets not give credit where credit is not due.

Nissan is primarily an Engine Engineering company, I doubt they would go to others for that.

Here's the excerpt from NissanNews:

"In September 2002, Nissan and Toyota signed a basic agreement that Nissan will produce 100,000 hybrid vehicles within a five-year period. Toyota will supply the hybrid system components (transaxle, inverter, battery, and control unit), and Nissan will develop the engine and unit adaptation which defines the attractiveness of the product. This prototype model is the first completed by Nissan under the agreement."

The old Ford SHOs had a suhweet Yamaha Engine. I also beleive that Toys had Yamaha develop an engine for one of their Celica model.

- ßaller

Bayou Titan · 08-14-2004, 10:26 PM

By the way, why does GM use a Honda V6 in some of their Vue's and not their own engine?

Slurppie · 08-14-2004, 10:48 PM

A.) Cheaper to use current technology that works?
B.) GM wanted a decent engine for a change? <- joke
C.) GM wanted to attract a new audience?
D.) I have no freaking clue hence the whole reason for this thread.

caltitan · 08-14-2004, 11:38 PM

Hondas and Acuras using Onstar now so maybe that's how GM gets to use their V6 in the Vue.

LordMuut · 08-15-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ßaller

The old Ford SHOs had a suhweet Yamaha Engine. I also beleive that Toys had Yamaha develop an engine for one of their Celica model.

- ßaller

I owned a 1990 SHO. It was fast but was also the WORST vehicle I have ever owned. Severe cooling problems with that motor in that car. That car is the reason that I will NEVER consider owning a Ford product again.

SarkaZm · 08-17-2004, 01:22 PM

The Vue is a descent vehicle, but it was a dog with the GM powerplants. The Honda engine will give it a little more respect and refinement. Also, as someone said, it is only available in the "sport" model, but will also allow GM to become part of the aftermarket/tuner crowd (somewhat) which is dominated by the big three...Honda, Nissan, Toyota!

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=7783