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Old 11-21-2012, 01:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Trust me when I say this if you have problems with what Obama is doing in the States, coming to Canada is not the solution! I did see posts about Congo being a good fit for Americans.

Google crown corporations. That should send ya running back to the USA!

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no more like fail. As in fail to back up your statement with facts. so sad for you.
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......... they already have free health care there too.
free health care......well, so much for that old saying..."nothing is ever really free"..
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free health care......well, so much for that old saying..."nothing is ever really free"..
Truer words were never spoken...
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I don't know why anyone would think Obama is anti gun..

Obama, October 2012

“My belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”


Ah yes.......not just SAW's, but Obama also has a problem with handguns.

Don't pay attention to Spirit.....y 'all better start hiding those f 'n guns..
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I don't know why anyone would think Obama is anti gun..

Obama, October 2012

“My belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”
Think redcoats and how it all relates to the 2nd amendment.
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That statement from Obama shows his ignorance with the issue. His ignorance is exactly why he wont burst the gun law tolerance level.

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Re: Obamas purposed weapons ban.....

Still all BS ............

snopes.com: U.N. Arms Trade Treaty

International treaties do not supercede the amendments to the Constitution, this was about international arms shipments, not US domestic arms possession.
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Re: Obamas purposed weapons ban.....

I'm expecting great things from the ATT...(U N arms treaty)
The mental power & weapons knowledge going into the ATT is incredible.
Below is a small clip from an ATT related advisory document......my favorite
quote from page 31.



U.S. Policy and the Arms Trade Treaty
By Rachel Stohl

Rachel Stohl is an Associate Fellow of Chatham House, London, based in Washington,
DC. She is the co-author of The International Arms Trade
and was the Consultant to the United Nations Group of Governmental Experts on the
Arms Trade Treaty.

From page 31.

C. Universally binding principles of international humanitarian law, including:
i. The prohibition on the use of arms that are of a nature to cause
superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering;
ii. The prohibition on weapons or munitions incapable of
distinguishing between combatants and civilians.
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Spirit, do you really think that he isn't going to push his anti-gun agenda harder over the next four years? You see no significance in changing our stance on the UN initiative 12 (yes twelve) hours after his election?

Even a tried and true liberal such as yourself has to be able to see the facts...
1. Guns are not the priority of this term. The economy is and proving that the Democrats can reduce the budget deficit is the priority. Otherwise, we'll have a fully on Republican government.
2. The UN came to monitor elections and all sorts of conservatives got freaked out because of that. They broke no laws but the fear that somehow they would created panic amongst the Right. If THAT was the reaction as a group monitoring election, imagine the response IF EVEN the UN would have some authority over the United States and it's cultural icon, the gun.
3. Obama didn't push the "anti gun" agenda when he had momentum in his first year. He holds not even close to the power to get legislation through the Senate and much less the House. Too many Democratic Senators are not anywhere close to Far Left enough or safe enough to vote in a bloc for that type of legislation.

All the Right Wing fear did then and now is spur spikes in ammunition shortages and gun prices.

Not going to happen.
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Just because I am not a gay hating, church going, tea party hat wearing conservative doesn't make a liberal.

I am capable of thinking for myself, and I don't require a political party to tell me what is important during an election.
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1. Guns are not the priority of this term. The economy is and proving that the Democrats can reduce the budget deficit is the priority.............
Pravda says the 2nd term is about more taxes & more wars..

"Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society
and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives
speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in
Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes
his generals who get in the way."
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