So I pulled out my gun today...

[gr8titan]

Originally Posted by Altimat

I'm thinking hard about picking up a Sig 229 9mm for my first gun. Any other recommendations? I want something dead reliable for a noob and 9mm so the ammo is cheap.

I'd highly recommend a .40 or a .45 ACP in any make. Discharging a pistol at a target beyond 10 yards is no longer considered a defensive shot in todays PC socialist community. They (the perp/s) almost have to be on top of you for a shooting to be considered a defensive act. You want a caliber that will "stop" the perp right at the point of impact with one pull of the trigger. With regular practice, using a "noob" .40 or a 45 ACP, you should be a dead shot within 10 yards.

9mm is a very good, accurate, low recoil "offensive" caliber, however, it lacks the stopping power of a 40 or a 45 ammo in a defensive "one shot do or die" scenario.

If you have a tendency of turning into a gun afficionado, a 45ACP in the 1911 version has the most aftermarket "mod" available to turn your gun into the most accurate-low recoil-goodlooking gun that you will enjoy for years to come.

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by Altimat

I'm thinking hard about picking up a Sig 229 9mm for my first gun. Any other recommendations? I want something dead reliable for a noob and 9mm so the ammo is cheap.

Do yourself a favor and get a .40

Can't go wrong with the Sig... it's like having a Ferrari in your hands.

[92TripleBlack]

Originally Posted by Altimat

I'm thinking hard about picking up a Sig 229 9mm for my first gun. Any other recommendations? I want something dead reliable for a noob and 9mm so the ammo is cheap.

Get the 229 in .40. Its what I have. You won't be sorry.

[p_bratton]

Originally Posted by sc186

Long time hunter/ shooter here.

If you like .22's you would love a 22WM cartridge or 17WM. Compact, cheap, accurate and low impact so you can shoot all day. You'de love what it does to a varmit at 75 yards.

At the moment im looking for a good .45 handgun. I always loved my fathers WWII army issue .45 and would love to have one of my own. Any suggestions?

There are lots of 1911 .45's out there. If your looking for a replica of the original 1911, Springfield builds a Government model that's nice for a replica. Colt has a 1911 WWI repro that retails for $990...

Kind depends on your budget. I'm a dealer and can order in whatever you may be looking for.

Phil

[p_bratton]

Originally Posted by gr8titan

I'd highly recommend a .40 or a .45 ACP in any make. Discharging a pistol at a target beyond 10 yards is no longer considered a defensive shot in todays PC socialist community. They (the perp/s) almost have to be on top of you for a shooting to be considered a defensive act. You want a caliber that will "stop" the perp right at the point of impact with one pull of the trigger. With regular practice, using a "noob" .40 or a 45 ACP, you should be a dead shot within 10 yards.

9mm is a very good, accurate, low recoil "offensive" caliber, however, it lacks the stopping power of a 40 or a 45 ammo in a defensive "one shot do or die" scenario.

If you have a tendency of turning into a gun afficionado, a 45ACP in the 1911 version has the most aftermarket "mod" available to turn your gun into the most accurate-low recoil-goodlooking gun that you will enjoy for years to come.

One pull of the trigger??? If I'm going to the trouble of shooting somone, they will be gifted with at least three rounds.

Phil

[steves]

I have a Glock 30 for carry, but my favorite toy is my Colt 1911.

[gr8titan]

Originally Posted by pbratton

One pull of the trigger??? If I'm going to the trouble of shooting somone, they will be gifted with at least three rounds.
Phil

.....or more just to make sure the perp won't be able to sue for "damages".

[JayDee]

Originally Posted by pbratton

One pull of the trigger??? If I'm going to the trouble of shooting somone, they will be gifted with at least three rounds.

Phil

True, but if only ONE of your three rounds hits its target you want that one round to count. I'm happy to give up magazine capacity (8 rounds in my Sig 220) over a small 9mm for the stopping power.

All of this could be debated until Hillary Clinton becomes president...

[p_bratton]

Originally Posted by JayDee

True, but if only ONE of your three rounds hits its target you want that one round to count. I'm happy to give up magazine capacity (8 rounds in my Sig 220) over a small 9mm for the stopping power.

All of this could be debated until Hillary Clinton becomes president...

Not bragging, but at 10 yards, all three .45's will be hitting the target.

God help us if Hillary makes it back into the white house.

[baseballfanz]

Originally Posted by gr8titan

.....or more just to make sure the perp won't be able to sue for "damages".

I know what you're talking about. A couple of months ago when my friend was locking up his business there was a dude outside in the parking lot beating the bloody pulp out of his girlfriend. Some of the worker try to help and he punched a couple of them, threaten to go get his gun than finally drove his truck at high speed in their direction. My friend who have a concealed carry license pull out his gun and shot at the on-coming truck. The guy wreck into a couple of parked cars and side swipe a few more leaving the area. Police were call and after ward they reported a guy checking into a hospital. No charges were filed against my friend as it was determined to be self defense. About a month later he got a thing from court saying the guy he shot is suing him.

[p_bratton]

Originally Posted by baseballfanz

I know what you're talking about. A couple of months ago when my friend was locking up his business there was a dude outside in the parking lot beating the bloody pulp out of his girlfriend. Some of the worker try to help and he punched a couple of them, threaten to go get his gun than finally drove his truck at high speed in their direction. My friend who have a concealed carry license pull out his gun and shot at the on-coming truck. The guy wreck into a couple of parked cars and side swipe a few more leaving the area. Police were call and after ward they reported a guy checking into a hospital. No charges were filed against my friend as it was determined to be self defense. About a month later he got a thing from court saying the guy he shot is suing him.

Yup, we are still open for Civil suits here in Texas for now. I did see that Florida passed a law recentl;y that removed the requirement to retreat and barred any Civil suites for those who defend themselves.

We need that law enacted here too.

Phil

[bestatchess]

Originally Posted by gr8titan

.....or more just to make sure the perp won't be able to sue for "damages".

If intended for home defense, a handgun is a poor substitute for a 12 gauge shotgun (e.g. Winchester 1300 w/ 18" barrel & 8 round capacity).

[p_bratton]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

If intended for home defense, a handgun is a poor substitute for a 12 gauge shotgun (e.g. Winchester 1300 w/ 18" barrel & 8 round capacity).

Just as long as there is nothing else in the area that you care about.

Yup, just another tool in the arsenal.

[92TripleBlack]

Originally Posted by pbratton

Not bragging, but at 10 yards, all three .45's will be hitting the target.

God help us if Hillary makes it back into the white house.

Center of mass baby.

[92TripleBlack]

Originally Posted by pbratton

Yup, we are still open for Civil suits here in Texas for now. I did see that Florida passed a law recentl;y that removed the requirement to retreat and barred any Civil suites for those who defend themselves.

We need that law enacted here too.

Phil

I love my state.