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Grab your popcorn boys. Time to remind everyone why blue beats red, right beats left, and the Seahawks beat everyone.


For those of you on the right, how optimistic are you about Trump. I'm worried he could very well be the absolute worst president of my lifetime (step aside bush jr) ...please tell me I'm wrong and why you think things will be better under Trump!

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Oh..and my investments in AR15s pre-election aren't looking too hot right now...prices have dropped like a rock!

Trumps already f'ing me!

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Maybe ammo prices will fall so that you can shoot them.

As far as Trump, I think that he should refrain from Tweeting, but I like that he is not beholden to anyone. That may or may not work in his favor, but he doesn't care. I hope that he has some ideas that work.

I am more interested in what Ted Cruz has suggested about term limits. I have been all about this idea for years. Make the Senators and Congressmen play by the same rules/laws the apply to the rest of us. It shouldn't be a retirement home. I think that this will help our government more than anything else.

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The fact that Trump angers the Hollywood crowd is almost enough for me to call him a hero. I have never been able to understand why actors/actresses think that their opinion matters more than mine or yours. Is it because they made a movie by pretending to be someone else? Is it because they have too much money and time and the fame goes to their heads? What makes people follow them? They live in a fantasy world.

Regardless, I hope Trump can fix some of what isn't working so well.

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Re: 2017 Politics Thread

I bought my AR a couple days after the election, said they were overstocked and needed to move some out the door so they reduced the price! Oh and the Seahawks are winning, pretty good couple of weeks!

On to Trump,I personally think we need to give the guy a chance, tons of misinformation out there that people are taking a gospel, same with his cabinet picks. I for one am glad the current administration is GONE. Can't wait to see what the future hold in the next 4 years.

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Speaking as a serious, dedicated, Thoreauian small government conservative who can just barely see Rush Limbaugh off at the horizon to my left, I'd say Trump is far too left for my taste, and will invoke too much "government is the solution" when in reality, 99% of the problems we have are due to government. But I super we are about to see a resurgence of the economy, US pride, and some pretty lean times for guns and ammo makers. That's the one sector which is likely to suffer in this version of the future.

I can only hope we get term limits, a balanced budget, a rebuilt and reamed military, and a bit of "Don't tread on me" respect back. Right now, there is a vacuum of world leadership, and it shows.

I can say it's been amusing watching the demo in the Senate grill Jeff Sessions today, with tons of unsubstantiated innuendo and supposition. I've met the man, and he's the real deal. He will make a heck of an AG, and I can't wait for the confirmation vote.
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I think Trump is a creep, but if he can stand up to foreign powers, he may be OK. I'm glad to see someone not driven by religion and political innuendo. Go STEELERS!
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Hey Chunko.
You already started an I'm going to Hell thread on this site.


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As far as Drumpf, I think that he should refrain from Tweeting
That's the worlds biggest understatement right now.


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but I like that he is not beholden to anyone.
Except Russian Banks of course. US Banks wont lend to him because he doesn't pay back his losses.


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I am more interested in what Ted Cruz has suggested about term limits. I have been all about this idea for years. Make the Senators and Congressmen play by the same rules/laws the apply to the rest of us. It shouldn't be a retirement home. I think that this will help our government more than anything else.
Good luck getting a bunch of elites to vote against their own interest. For what it's worth, I hope he gets this done, but I just don't see these assholes getting rid of their taxpayer funded golden parachutes.


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The fact that Drumpf angers the Hollywood crowd is almost enough for me to call him a hero. I have never been able to understand why actors/actresses think that their opinion matters more than mine or yours. Is it because they made a movie by pretending to be someone else? Is it because they have too much money and time and the fame goes to their heads? What makes people follow them?
The EXACT same thing can be said about Trump. Why does he think his opinion matters? He was just a reality TV show host who was famous for being infamous.

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They live in a fantasy world.
Dude, Trump literally has golden thrones.

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Oh and the Seahawks are winning, pretty good couple of weeks!
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On to Drumpf,I personally think we need to give the guy a chance, tons of misinformation out there that people are taking a gospel, same with his cabinet picks. I for one am glad the current administration is GONE. Can't wait to see what the future hold in the next 4 years.
Tons of legit information out there too. I for one don't think a bully who makes fun of the handicap, disrespects women, and can't handle ANY criticism at all shouldn't be president.

As far as his cabinet picks go... holy **** man...

An education secretary who has never been involved in public schooling.
An AG who was denied a federal judgeship (by a group of Republicans) on the grounds that he's a notorious racist. And he just said the separation of church and state is unconstitutional.
Secretary of state with close ties to Russia, who ignored the embargo of Iran and sold to them.
Goldman Sachs at Treasury.
A guy who hates labor as the labor secretary.
Dude put Rick Perry in charge of our nuclear weapons...

At least General Mattis is in there.

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But I super we are about to see a resurgence of the economy
What country do you live in where the economy is bad?


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I can only hope we get term limits
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a balanced budget
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You do know we have been at war going on 16 years now right? Our military is pretty ****ing well armed.


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I can say it's been amusing watching the demo in the Senate grill Jeff Sessions today, with tons of unsubstantiated innuendo and supposition. I've met the man, and he's the real deal. He will make a heck of an AG, and I can't wait for the confirmation vote.
This is a matter of public record. I suggest you read it.

Jeff Sessions was denied a federal judgeship on the grounds that he is a notorious racist asshole.

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That's the worlds biggest understatement right now.




Except Russian Banks of course. US Banks wont lend to him because he doesn't pay back his losses.




Good luck getting a bunch of elites to vote against their own interest. For what it's worth, I hope he gets this done, but I just don't see these assholes getting rid of their taxpayer funded golden parachutes.




The EXACT same thing can be said about Trump. Why does he think his opinion matters? He was just a reality TV show host who was famous for being infamous.



Dude, Trump literally has golden thrones.
Quote me if you like, but please don't change my words to suit your perspective. It makes it appear that I actually wrote it that way, when I didnt.
As for term limits, it will probably require a constitutional amendment...and regardless of what it takes, I believe that it would be the best thing that could happen to our system of government. I would also like to see strong limits for lobbyists. Special interests are not always in the best interest of our country.
Even if Trump has a golden throne, it doesn't make me a "dude"
I didn't wring my hands in protest when the Liberals won. I didn't call anyone names. I generally don't even post online regarding political stuff, but I just wanted to say that I hope things get better in our country.
We seem to be polarized into 2 groups that really don't like each other. Social media just aggravates this polarization.
Nobody tries to see the other point of view, or even try to find middle ground. We may be doomed
I am out like Obama in 9 days. Let's give it a chance.

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I still have to wake up early and work hard either way.

I'd much rather talk about how poorly people have responded to this vote. I used to think that everyone that was in an adult sized body was one but recently I learned babies come in adult sized bodies as well. When did society fail to learn how to cope? Was it at the onset of the expansive internet and social media? (yes)

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This is a very slippery slope. Trump won. Judge him by his upcoming years. All we can do is give him a chance, like we did Obama. Only hope for a much better outcome. Right is right, left will always be........ left behind.
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I've been here the whole time. I just won the Titan talk fantasy football league!!!

As far as politics. We got screwed. It really doesn't matter that trump won. Either America was getting screwed. But one thing is for certain, the next 4 years of **** will be highly entertaining.

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