Philip Kennicott is a drag queen *****

[CoachBoone]

No wonder this country has no balls anymore. The more I read garbage like this, the more I understand Ann Coulter.
We have become an over-analytical, fearful-of-everything, self-absorbed, me first nation of pansies.
They should have cut the bastard's head off and put it on a bbq spit with a pig and taped it for the rest of his scum cronies to see.....here, martyr this.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13212323/

[shawnwat4]

Agreed. But that still doesn't fire me up as much as Micheal Berg's comments.

Berg’s father not convinced
Michael Berg said he was not convinced that al-Zarqawi’s organization was responsible for his son’s killing. “I have been lied to by my own government,” he said.

Berg, a pacifist who is running for Delaware’s lone House seat on the Green Party ticket, said al-Zarqawi’s death is likely to foster anti-American resentment among al-Qaida members who feel they have nothing left to lose.

Berg said the blame for most deaths in Iraq should be placed on President Bush, who he said is “more of a terrorist than Zarqawi.”

“Zarqawi felt my son’s breath on his hand as held the knife against his throat. Zarqawi had to look in his eyes when he did it,” Berg added, pausing to collect himself. “George Bush sits there glassy-eyed in his office with pieces of paper and condemns people to death. That to me is a real terrorist.”

Asked what would give him satisfaction, Berg said: “The end of the war and getting rid of George Bush.”

This ****sucker thinks he is gonna run for an office in MY state. HA! **** him and the horse he rode in on

[chunko]

Okay...I'm not terrorist loving hippie...but there is a point in there somewhere...

We went there under false pretenses because bush and his top people were pushing it.

Look how many folks have died in this war thanks to Bush pusing a war under these false pretenses...then look at how many people alzaqwelwee or whatever his name has killed. Who has more kills?

George Bush is a pansy draft dodger himself but is more than willing to lay other peoples lives on the line. This is why I prefer a president who has REALLY served his country. I think people who were in Vietnam have a healthier view of why war is a last resort.

I'm really impressed with our soldiers who continue to fight on day after day, without bi*ching about it like we get to back in our comfy houses. My hats off to you guys.

If it were up to me though, Bush would be out of here...or at least get to serve a week on the front lines to see if he'd reconsider his position. I'm sorry but you can't go to war for reason A, and then say ooops...just kidding I was wrong and still be president. That's a really big boo boo. That doesn't get impeached but a bj does?

All that said, if my son had died...yeah I'd be pissed about it...but publicaly, I would focus on his bravery and talk about the ideals my son died for. Saying all he said does two things: 1, makes his son's death seem pointless 2, makes him look like a terrorist lover.

/Rant.

[shawnwat4]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Look how many folks have died in this war thanks to Bush pusing a war under these false pretenses...then look at how many people alzaqwelwee or whatever his name has killed. Who has more kills?

George Bush is a pansy draft dodger himself but is more than willing to lay other peoples lives on the line. This is why I prefer a president who has REALLY served his country. I think people who were in Vietnam have a healthier view of why war is a last resort.

I'm really impressed with our soldiers who continue to fight on day after day, without bi*ching about it like we get to back in our comfy houses. My hats off to you guys.

If it were up to me though, Bush would be out of here...or at least get to serve a week on the front lines to see if he'd reconsider his position. I'm sorry but you can't go to war for reason A, and then say ooops...just kidding I was wrong and still be president.
/Rant.

OH boy. Alright Adam my man, just a couple of answers for ya.
First off, there is a reason the President is a civilian and not a member of the military. I'm sure you remember the reasons for seperation of the three branches- executive, legislative, judicial

secondly, only 26 of the 42 US Presidents have served in the military. military exp. isn't a prerequisite for the Presidency

thirdly, how are you gonna call him a draft dodging pansy?? He fulfilled his national guard requirements up through 1973, when the US officially pulled out of Vietnam!

And do you really think that every American casualty that comes home in a body bag doesn't affect him deeply? He has to live with that, because of his decisions 2700 Americans have died. But how many people will live b/c of that sacrifice........10 times that!
Zarqawi is a mother****ing ***** that desrved to die....end of sentence. To say he hasn't killed as many people as Bush is ludicrous.

[Helinut1970]

Consider the source and forget about it. MSNBC Socialist broadcast system. They are so lopsided its like trying to ride a bike with 1 pedal. I say frame it in gold and put it on the White house corrador when we get UBL he can go next to it.

[CoachBoone]

Originally Posted by shawnwat4

Agreed. But that still doesn't fire me up as much as Micheal Berg's comments.

Berg’s father not convinced
Michael Berg said he was not convinced that al-Zarqawi’s organization was responsible for his son’s killing. “I have been lied to by my own government,” he said.

Berg, a pacifist who is running for Delaware’s lone House seat on the Green Party ticket, said al-Zarqawi’s death is likely to foster anti-American resentment among al-Qaida members who feel they have nothing left to lose.

Berg said the blame for most deaths in Iraq should be placed on President Bush, who he said is “more of a terrorist than Zarqawi.”

“Zarqawi felt my son’s breath on his hand as held the knife against his throat. Zarqawi had to look in his eyes when he did it,” Berg added, pausing to collect himself. “George Bush sits there glassy-eyed in his office with pieces of paper and condemns people to death. That to me is a real terrorist.”

Asked what would give him satisfaction, Berg said: “The end of the war and getting rid of George Bush.”

This ****sucker thinks he is gonna run for an office in MY state. HA! **** him and the horse he rode in on

I'm, tired of every idiot who lost a son, husband, wife or parent that happens to hate whomever our leader is. They then become a ****ing expert on foreign affairs and decide to speak publicly, run for office or write a ****ing book, (yeah I know it's a free ****ing country, so nitpickers out there can blow me) condemning the prez to death, calling him a terrorist, ad nauseum. I don't give a **** what some asshol'es ploitics is, just keep it out of the papers and off the TV where our enemies can see us as divided.
This is why I like ants. They all work for the common good, no matter who is president. Mmmmmmm, insect politics.

[Burly]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Okay...I'm not terrorist loving hippie...but there is a point in there somewhere...

We went there under false pretenses because bush and his top people were pushing it.

Look how many folks have died in this war thanks to Bush pusing a war under these false pretenses...then look at how many people alzaqwelwee or whatever his name has killed. Who has more kills?

George Bush is a pansy draft dodger himself but is more than willing to lay other peoples lives on the line. This is why I prefer a president who has REALLY served his country. I think people who were in Vietnam have a healthier view of why war is a last resort.

I'm really impressed with our soldiers who continue to fight on day after day, without bi*ching about it like we get to back in our comfy houses. My hats off to you guys.

If it were up to me though, Bush would be out of here...or at least get to serve a week on the front lines to see if he'd reconsider his position. I'm sorry but you can't go to war for reason A, and then say ooops...just kidding I was wrong and still be president. That's a really big boo boo. That doesn't get impeached but a bj does?

All that said, if my son had died...yeah I'd be pissed about it...but publicaly, I would focus on his bravery and talk about the ideals my son died for. Saying all he said does two things: 1, makes his son's death seem pointless 2, makes him look like a terrorist lover.

/Rant.

Um, how many thousands of people did Saddam have murdered? Taking him out of power was reason enough for the war in my opinion. The way I look at it, is that if you can't support you own President, maybe you should move and go live under a different one.

[chunko]

First...I don't think our country should be under military rule. And I'm joking for the most part about wanting to see Bush serve. I just wish he would have planned a little more before risking our troops lives. I think that is a fair criticism.

Originally Posted by shawnwat4

Zarqawi is a mother****ing ***** that desrved to die....end of sentence. To say he hasn't killed as many people as Bush is ludicrous.

Agreed!!!

Originally Posted by shawnwat4

And do you really think that every American casualty that comes home in a body bag doesn't affect him deeply? He has to live with that, because of his decisions 2700 Americans have died. But how many people will live b/c of that sacrifice........10 times that!

That depends whether you think we have accomplished something in Iraq...or mad a bad situation worse. I'm leaning more toward the second.


P.S. what's with us post whores having a serious debate.

[chunko]

Originally Posted by Burly

Um, how many thousands of people did Saddam have murdered? Taking him out of power was reason enough for the war in my opinion. The way I look at it, is that if you can't support you own President, maybe you should move and go live under a different one.

Ha Ha... You remind me of southpark..."If yall don't like dis country den geeeeeeet out!"

Funny thing about this country...We don't have to support our president's decisions. In fact, it's our duty to view his decisions with a certain amount of cynicism. Are you suggesting we blindly follow whatever our leaders tell us? Cause they would never lie or mislead us or make a bad decision. Bush is perfect...a supreme being, handed the title of president from god himself. Thank you for helping me see the light.

I can understand people hating democrats..they are spineless and mostly just B**ch about republicans ideas while having none of their own.

But, it is possible to dislike democrats and think Bush is an idiot.

[konigfritz]

God bless Ann Coulter. nufff said!!

[CoachBoone]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Ha Ha... You remind me of southpark..."If yall don't like dis country den geeeeeeet out!"

Funny thing about this country...We don't have to support our president's decisions. In fact, it's our duty to view his decisions with a certain amount of cynicism. Are you suggesting we blindly follow whatever our leaders tell us? Cause they would never lie or mislead us or make a bad decision. Bush is perfect...a supreme being, handed the title of president from god himself.

No way do I think blind allegiance is what makes the US great. But on the other hand, dems and repubs alike are too often too quick to make public denunciations of each other's policies, especially regarding international matters like war, fighting terrorism, etc.
I wish both parties would quit trying to grandstand each other when we are faced with real and serious threats. Whether you like the war or not, hate Bush or love him, the biggest losers in these PR games is my brothers and sisters, your brothers and sisters in the war. I wish we could act a little more united behind our war efforts, then argue all day and night after the last soldier, the last pow comes home.

[chunko]

Bush's Service...You all can be proud???? For those of you who don't like to read...he never did $hit. He transfered back an forth, didn't get physical so he didn't have to fly. Then at the end...the report of where he supposedly spent most of hist time is unavailable for "administrative" reasons???

Let me know if you're interested enough to want links to actual documents. Point is, Bush was well connected and figured out how to be AWOL without being actually AWOL.

The details.


Getting into the Guard

Statement of understanding (5/27/68): "Satisfactory participation during my membership in the Air National Guard of the United States will be attendance and satisfactory performance of assigned duties at 48 scheduled inactive duty training periods and 15 days' field training (active duty for training) annually, unless excused therefrom by proper authority. It also includes successful completion of on-the-job upgrade training."

(doc26.gif )- Contract of Service (5/27/68)

Agreement (5/28/68): "...I will serve with my parent ANG unit as directed by the unit commander, unless sooner relieved by competent military authority, for a minimum period of five (5) years..."

(doc23.gif )- Penalty for bad attendance (undated)

(doc24.gif ) - Statement of intent: "Flying is lifetime goal." (undated)

Press release http://www.cis.net/~coldfeet/He_gets...PR_release.gif (3/24/1970)

Second page of the PR release http://www.cis.net~/coldfeet/afterburners.gif (3/24/70)
1972-1973

*Memorandum from Lt. Col. Killian to Lt. Col. Harris, 2/2/72 (page two): "Update me as soon as possible on flight certifications - specifically Bath and Bush."

*Memorandum from Lt. Col. Killian to Lt. Bush 5/4/72: "You are ordered to report to Commannder, 111th F.I.S. Ellington AFB, no lather than 14 May 1972 to conduct annual physical examination (flight)..."

*Lt. Col. Killian Memo to File 5/19/72: "I advised him of our investment in him and his commitment."

(doc7.gif ) - First transfer request; Bush applies to transfer with the 9921st in AL, a non-flying unit (5/24/72)

(doc6.gif )- Lt. Colonel Bricken's Response from AL (5/26/72)

(doc25.gif )- TXANG Recommends approval and notification if Bush is assigned to reserves. (6/??/72)

(doc5.gif ) - Air Force HQ Denver disallows transfer (date unclear)

*Lt. Col. Killian Memorandum for Record, 8/1/72: "...suspended from flight status due to failure to perform to USAF/TexANG standards and failure to meet annual physical examination (Flight) as ordered...Officer has made no attempt to meet his training certification or flight physical."

(grounded.gif ) - Bush's suspension from flying; "Reason for Suspension" Failure to accomplish annual medical examination." (9/29/72; confirming verbal orders of 8/1/72) (James Bath is also suspended on this same document.)

(doc2.gif ) - Bush request for temporary transfer to 187th Tac Recon Grp. in AL (Bush letter, 9/5/72)

(doc11.gif )- AL ANG HQ approval for Bush to train with the 187th. (9/15 and 9/29, 1972)

(doc4.gif ) - Annual Officer Effectiveness Report part 1..."Not Observed" in all categories. (5/2/73)

(doc9.gif ) - Annual Officer Effectiveness Report part 2..."Not Observed at this unit during the period of this report." (5/2/73)

(doc17.gif ) - Special Order from Department of the Air Force, Ellington AFB, ordering Bush to perform 9 days duty in May/June 1973. (5/1/73)

*Memo from Killian, recipient not noted, 6/24/73 (see p. 6): "I got a call from your office today concerning the evaluation of 1st Lt. Bush...Neither Lt. Col Harris or I feel we can rate 1st Lt. Bush since he was not training with 111th F.I.S. since April 1972..."

(doc12.gif )- USAF requests more information on Officer Effectiveness Report; "This Officer should have been reassigned in May 1972 since he is no longer training in his AFSC or with his unit of assignment." (6/29/73)

*Killian Memo to File, 8/18/73: "Harris gave me a message from Grp today regarding Bush's OETR and Staudt is pushing to sugar coat it. Bush wasn't here during rating period and I don't have any feedback from 187th in Alabama. I will not rate. Austin is not happy today either."

(doc28.gif )- Major Martin replies; "Not rated for the period 1 May 72 through 30 Apr 73. Report not available for administrative reasons." (11/12/73)

[CoachBoone]

I don't care about Bush, or Hillary, or Elvis. I care about our military and our ability to finish a job. Left wants low morale so repubs get embarrassed and lose next election. Then we vote in a dem and repubs return favor, try to make dems look inept so they can regain power. We're all dupes if we don't see beyond that. Keep our fights in the voting place, stand behind our troops. 100%. No ifs ands or buts.

[TitanFan59]

Yes coach, and down with all the democrat commie pinko fags.

[CoachBoone]

Nothing sets me off more than democrat commie pinko fags.......and carnies.