2009 F-150 - Page 2

Justintoxicated · 07-17-2007, 04:26 PM

diesel gets mroe expensive in the winter, usualy exceeds the cost of gas, but in the summer it's cheaper. At least in Cali.

I want a Natural Gas truck, a buck a gallon and you can fillup at home. The difference in going to diesel isn't enough to justify a new vehicle. Althoguh my Dad's 3500 is much larger and can pull alot mroe than my titan, and even stock it gets better gas mileage as well.

DenverTitan · 07-17-2007, 05:17 PM

Just a thought about the F-150. I may be the minority but I traded a GMC in 2005 for my Titan because GM had nothing to compare drivetrain wise. Their top engine offering was the same as three years before when I bought the truck.(well they claimed 10 more horses) In fact I NEVER would have even thought about the Titan until I saw all the comparison tests and outstanding motor. The 5.6 made me buy this truck. Nissan got a buyer who owned two GMC's previously.
I know that Ford customers are very loyal and may not switch but I don't think it is a stretch to say that they have the worst drivetrain setup of any half ton out there right now. The truck is solidly built but without a good motor it does not matter. This in my opinion is symptomatic of GM as well. Their new trucks are great and class leading in some respects(interior, warranty) but they brought them to market with a clunky 4 speed auto! It seems both Ford and GM are so big and so strapped for cash that they cannot launch a new vehicle with the class leading specs they need right now. Any other "traitors" like me out there.(that's what I've been called on GM inside news)

CLG · 07-17-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackbeauty

Hmmmmm... Yeah.... Logical.... $2.47 for 87 octane..... $2.89 for diesel...... At that rate disparity, the diesel will need to get at least 22-23 MPG to be as economical as the Titan..... Not a diesel guy. Is that mileage rate possible in a big diesel truck?

I have read that Ford is looking for 30mpg with the 4.4l in the 150. You have to remember the F-150 is alot lighter than 250 and the 4.4 is alot smaller than there 6.4 30 soundls alittle far fetched to me but 22 no prob.

CLG · 07-17-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverTitan

Just a thought about the F-150. I may be the minority but I traded a GMC in 2005 for my Titan because GM had nothing to compare drivetrain wise. Their top engine offering was the same as three years before when I bought the truck.(well they claimed 10 more horses) In fact I NEVER would have even thought about the Titan until I saw all the comparison tests and outstanding motor. The 5.6 made me buy this truck. Nissan got a buyer who owned two GMC's previously.
I know that Ford customers are very loyal and may not switch but I don't think it is a stretch to say that they have the worst drivetrain setup of any half ton out there right now. The truck is solidly built but without a good motor it does not matter. This in my opinion is symptomatic of GM as well. Their new trucks are great and class leading in some respects(interior, warranty) but they brought them to market with a clunky 4 speed auto! It seems both Ford and GM are so big and so strapped for cash that they cannot launch a new vehicle with the class leading specs they need right now. Any other "traitors" like me out there.(that's what I've been called on GM inside news)

Sorry dont agree at all the 5.4l is the not the fastest but, to say its the worst is wrong it has been tested on jobsites across america tough as nails. If you hook a trl to a Chevy and a Ford you will see which is for play and which for pay!

**goathead** · 07-17-2007, 06:07 PM

with both nissan and toyota now having real full sized 1/2 tons, it really is amazing that ford is not going to play hardball any sooner than 3-4 years from now.

TripleC · 07-18-2007, 02:10 AM

if diesel ever gets as popular (i.e. more cars useing diesel and drivers buying) then you can expect the price of it to go up just as much.
supply and demand.

TripleC · 07-18-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

diesel gets mroe expensive in the winter, usualy exceeds the cost of gas, but in the summer it's cheaper. At least in Cali.

I want a Natural Gas truck, a buck a gallon and you can fillup at home. The difference in going to diesel isn't enough to justify a new vehicle. Althoguh my Dad's 3500 is much larger and can pull alot mroe than my titan, and even stock it gets better gas mileage as well.

ive seen alot of gas pumps around here that put in at least 10% ethenol mixed in. and those stations usually beat the other stations in price. so i buy from them.

all gas is more expensive in the winter because they process it more to make it start a cold engine. (im sure most know this already).
and of course summer time you dont need all this extra "refinement". which is why its such bullsh1t that gas stations gouge us during "vacation" season. since they know more ppl are driving. not to mention that as gas gets "hotter" it expands. and gas prices are set for the gas underground which is around 65 degrees (dont quote me on that.. guesstimate). but by the time it goes into your tank. it heats up and expands. so you bought 50 bucks of gas at 65 degrees. yet your getting less energy out of that gas because now its 93 degrees outside and it has expanded.

DOWN WITH BIG OIL! DAMN THE MAN! etc... etc...