Mr. Horn is the LAW! only in texas..

[titan814]

only if the rest of the world was like this... that crazy redneck wasnt f-ing around..

http://break.com/index/brave-neighbo...911-call2.html

[helomech]

Hopefully they don't prosecute that guy, although it sounds like they will. I sure hope I get on his jury if they do.

[Antihero]

Lol I read the title as my horn is the law. I couldnt figure out the correlation at all. My favorite part is when the 911 operator says "I dont want you goin outside Mr. Horn." then Mr. Horn says "Well it here it goes buddy." and then you here him rack the slide on the shotgun.

[Blackbeauty]

You know, I wonder if the roles were reversed, if the "New Black Panthers" would see it as such an injustice? I wonder if they'd be defending the shooter's right to protect himself. Interesting how all these "vocal minorities", as the media calls them, come out of the woodwork to support, sometimes violently, their beliefs and try to sway the political viewpoint to their favor....

Gotta love this country.... and just FTR, it doesn't take all kinds.... we just have all kinds.

[BayStateSuks]

In many states you do have a right to step into someone's shoes and defend them if they cannot defend themselves. I would think in TX where a gun is required by law in most counties that he may get off provided he used reasonable force under the circumstances, e.g., his neighbors were threatened by deadly force and he responded in kind with deadly force.

[Blackbeauty]

No one was home at the time at his neighbor's house. He witnessed a breakin and robbery.


Here's the story:

Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:08:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Bruce Mills
Subject: Texas shotgun justice


http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_p...html?id=145182


Texas shotgun justice


Mary Vallis, National Post
Published: Wednesday, December 05, 2007


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* Texas shooting: Joe Horn's 911 call
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At first, Joe Horn appears to be doing his neighbourly
duty. When he sees two men allegedly breaking into a
home on his street in suburban Pasadena, Tex., in the
middle of the day, he dials 911.


But the 61-year-old's call quickly takes a decidedly
unneighbourly turn.


"I've got a shotgun. Do you want me to stop 'em?" he
asks the emergency dispatcher less than 20 seconds
into the call.


"Nope, don't do that," the dispatcher replies. "Ain't
no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?"


Moments later, Mr. Horn defies the dispatcher and
steps outside.


"Move, you're dead!" he can be heard saying on the
Nov. 14 audio recording.


Then comes the sound of several shotgun blasts. Mr.
Horn returns to the telephone.


"Get the law over here quick," he says. "They came in
the front yard with me, man. I had no choice."


Police arrived soon afterward to find two men with
gunshot wounds; both died.


That was three weeks ago, but Mr. Horn has not been
charged with any crime. Police are waiting for a grand
jury to decide whether to indict him. The case has
divided Texans into two camps: Those who support the
shooter's apparent vigilantism and argue his actions
were reasonable under the Second Amendment; and those
who say he is a murderer whose actions may have been
racially motivated.


Mr. Horn is white. The two dead men -- Miguel Antonio
DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30 -- were black.


Pasadena Police expect the grand jury to be convened
in the next few weeks. Meanwhile, tension is mounting.


The New Black Panther Nation, a black activist group,
led nearly 200 protesters to Mr. Horn's otherwise
quiet street for a rally on Sunday. They were met by a
roughly equivalent number of his supporters; bikers
revved their engines to drown out Quanell X, the New
Black Panther Nation's leader, when he tried to speak.


"We don't condone anyone breaking into anybody's home
and stealing. But we also don't condone a citizen
becoming the police, the judge, the jury and the
executioner, all at the same time," Quanell X said in
a telephone interview.


"We believe that a system of law is in place, that
every human being is granted due process in the system
of law. Mr. Horn circumvented that, abandoned that and
literally threw that whole due-process system away."


Local newspapers and radio talk shows have also been
deluged by responses from Mr. Horn's defenders.


"If we had justice like this for all criminals, this
would be a much safer country," one supporter wrote on
YouTube.


"I believe what Joe did was right and I applaud him
for it. And if you're some worthless human being that
has to go steal other people's hard-earned
possessions, you deserve to die."


On the 911 recording, which is widely available on the
Internet, Mr. Horn repeatedly tells the dispatcher he
is not going to let the men get away. At least 11
times, the dispatcher advises him not to leave his
home or shoot.


An investigation is still under way, but a spokesman
for the Pasadena Police said it appears Mr. Horn shot
the two men after he turned a corner and found them in
his yard.


Police estimate he was two to three metres from the
men. One was hit in the chest, another in the side.


The victims began running in opposite directions, but
both soon died, said Captain A. H. "Bud" Corbett. He
described Mr. Horn as sounding "aggressive" in the
recording.


"If Mr. Horn had just walked out and blown away two
people walking by on the sidewalk, he'd have been
locked up, and he probably would have been charged,"
Capt. Corbett said. "But that is not the case."


Tom Lambright, Mr. Horn's lawyer, insists his client
was simply defending himself because the men "made
lunging movements."


"He's trying to protect his own life," Mr. Lambright
said recently. "He's scared."


The recording also indicates Mr. Horn keeps up to date
on his rights. At one point, he lectures the
dispatcher and reminds him he has the right to protect
himself, and "the laws have been changed in this
country since Sept. 1, and you know it and I know it."


This is thought to refer to a new state law
strengthening Texans' right to defend themselves in
their homes, vehicles and workplaces. The so-called
"castle doctrine" took effect on Sept. 1.


Guns are easy to acquire in Texas and most are
unsympathetic to the plight of criminals. The state
leads the U.S. in executions: 405 since the death
penalty was reinstated in the 1970s.


"Texas is a frontier state. It has a lot of tradition
in terms of people being able to protect themselves,"
said Fred Moss, a professor of criminal law at
Southern Methodist University in Dallas.


"What disappoints me is that the vocal minority gives
the image of Texas as being a bunch of gun-toting,
chest-thumping, macho types who think you ought to be
able to gun burglars down as they run away."


If the grand jury decides not to indict Mr. Horn,
Quanell X will lead another march back through the
quiet suburban neighbourhood and directly to his door.


He expects it will be necessary. "We live in the deep
South," he said. "And in the deep South a white man
killing a black men is as common as apple and cherry
pie."


mvallis@ nationalpost.com

[BayStateSuks]

I still think there is almost an absolute right in TX to protect property, unlike many states which require you to retreat, run away and hide in darkness hoping someone won't shoot your a$$. If the morons robbing the house were approaching him and he felt threatened, he would have the right to protect himself under the castle doctrine provided he is on his own property. I mean, who runs at someone with a gun anyway? Natural selection I guess...

[helomech]

I sure hope the DA doesn't prosecute this case. I Louisiana a few years ago, this guy set a booby trap on his front door, and the shotgun killed the intruder that had broken into his home on more than one occasion. The local DA didn't prosecute, because he said that he didn't believe that he could find a jury that would convict. That is how it should be done.

[daptech]

"We live in the deep South," he said. "And in
the deep South a white man killing a black
man is as common as apple and cherry
pie."
-
BS..........what is common in the deep south is a Black man Killing
a Black man..........check the murder stats for New Orleans.

[shawnwat4]

I dunno. This guy is an idiot. He is not in any harm. This isn't the lawless west in the 1800's?

[Bhudda454]

The case is most likely a Non-Starter at the local level, however the Fed's will likely try it out. They have to meddle in everything and it's only getting worse.

Quanell and the BlackKKK should be arrested for unlawful gathering for each and every place they show up at without a permit. The people in that neighborhood have since found out if they all sign up for it, they can collectively ban anyone fro coming into the neighborhood to protest/counter-protest. This will insure arrests for anyone including the press should they come in without permission from the Entire neighborhood. Good On Them

Joe Horn took it a bit far, by shooting them in the back. He is likely to be charged on something, but not to the degree some of the fringe groups would like.

Lesson to Criminals in Texas, and hopefully soon Nationwide. Is anything in My house worth your life? You may want to feel pity for the two dead Illegal Aliens who made a living doing B&E's here, I can't. Lifelong criminals with a past will only escalate as they continue to get away with the same crimes repeatedly. When you have only seconds, the police are only minutes away.


If Joe had been asked by his neighbor to watch his house, this would be a total non-starter in any court. If his neighbor doesn't man up and back Joe, I can almost promise you the rest of the neighborhood will make him wish he had.


In other words..... Don't mess with the bull, or you Will get the "HORN"

[Megw3788]

I hope they don't prosecute this guy. If someone was breaking into my house I'd hope my neighbor would do the same. These guys were bound to get killed eventually, better now than after they robbed more people or even before they got violent. What do you think would happen if they broke into a house with 1 person inside or say a woman and a child? Ha thugs usually aren't ones to run away from someone, especially if they outnumber the people they're trying to rob. Glad this guy put em where they belong, and hopefully it will send a message to all the other thugs out there.

[PJLAVELL]

Whatever happens with Mr Horn in court it will be a landmark ruling that will become casefile for the Thompson West law books here in Tx.Then any other case similar to this will be called the Horn law.Maybe even federal depending on the way things pan out locally.

[PJLAVELL]

This happened just a few miles from me.I believe if he is prosecuted then the thieves will feel protected even that much more.As far as it being a white black thing,when is it not??Quanell x and his band of thugs find these situations to be their political front to make it a racial thing.For the gain of no one but themselves

[Quartz]

I don’t know what to think about this one. These were some sorry POSs but is seemed like Mr. Horn was itching to kill someone. Whatever the outcome in criminal court, he will be sued in civil court. He’s going to be in court for a long time to come.