Nissan GT-R - Page 3

lowlypawn · 03-18-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_X

. IMO this car failed to impress me so far. If this car is going to be as anal as the Japanese version, then is not worth it. In Japan they can't be modded at all. If you take it to the track, you have to go directly to a GTR supportive Dealer and have it inspected and I believe that comes out of pocket or the warranty will be voided.

If this "failed to impress you" what car dose impress you???

and i don't understand that last part? anal? GTR supportive dealer??? What?

MR_X · 03-18-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lowlypawn

If this "failed to impress you" what car dose impress you???

and i don't understand that last part? anal? GTR supportive dealer??? What?

What car impress me? Porsche 911 turbo, (to a certain) Z06. Those cars you can mod and get some awesome # out of it. From what I have read in the GTR, the ECU will reject any mods done to it. As for a supportive dealer, not every Nissan dealer can support or have the equipment to work on a GTR.

EVO8 · 03-19-2008, 12:19 PM

MR X, any code can be broken with the right hacker. Don't believe everything you read. The GTR is an astonishing car. That car is impressive and the numbers don't lie. For a $70+k car, it's pretty impressive for what it can do. Just wait till it gets to the USA, I'm sure there are many ecu hackers waiting to get their hands on it. Time will tell.

Sask Attak · 03-19-2008, 12:50 PM

I don't know why but it doesn't surprise me how incredible this car is. Nissan has been at the top of the tuner car scene for alot of years (previous Skylines, 300z, etc). The only down side....not RWD (no drifting) and not manual. I know it shifts faster then a F1 car, but there is no clutch to beat the ever living $hit outta.

Still one car I would love to own, even for 10 hrs...trying to duck the repo man...lol.

MR_X · 03-19-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EVO8

MR X, any code can be broken with the right hacker. Don't believe everything you read. The GTR is an astonishing car. That car is impressive and the numbers don't lie. For a $70+k car, it's pretty impressive for what it can do. Just wait till it gets to the USA, I'm sure there are many ecu hackers waiting to get their hands on it. Time will tell.

Oh I bet there will be something available, but hopefully will not be like the RX-8 that took them 4 years to do and one more to kind of perfect (still in the works). I'm also against the mark up. That is one of the reason what killed the Japanese sports car era in the 90s. So till then I will keep my eyes out for a 996 911 TT.

Juday · 03-19-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_X

What car impress me? Porsche 911 turbo, (to a certain) Z06. Those cars you can mod and get some awesome # out of it. From what I have read in the GTR, the ECU will reject any mods done to it. As for a supportive dealer, not every Nissan dealer can support or have the equipment to work on a GTR.

Correct. I asked the dealer yesterday if they were going to be receiving any shipments on the GTR. He promptly told me NO! Reason being the dealerships have to invest in roughly $50,000 to $60,000 in the maintenance department to even service the vehicle (special lift, special tools, qualified individuals to work on the vehicle, etc.) Plus, I believe each dealership is only limited to 2 of them per year.

On the other hand, to say a Porsche 911 Turbo impresses you, that's a given. For a $100k+ car, it should impress. To say the Z06 and the GTR don't impress you, well that's just ridiculous. To pay $70k for a car that can do what cars 3-4 times as much can do is AMAZING!! Granted, I probably never will be able to afford either one of these spectacular vehicles, but to make a statement like that is insane.

MR_X · 03-19-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Juday

Correct. I asked the dealer yesterday if they were going to be receiving any shipments on the GTR. He promptly told me NO! Reason being the dealerships have to invest in roughly $50,000 to $60,000 in the maintenance department to even service the vehicle (special lift, special tools, qualified individuals to work on the vehicle, etc.) Plus, I believe each dealership is only limited to 2 of them per year.

On the other hand, to say a Porsche 911 Turbo impresses you, that's a given. For a $100k+ car, it should impress. To say the Z06 and the GTR don't impress you, well that's just ridiculous. To pay $70k for a car that can do what cars 3-4 times as much can do is AMAZING!! Granted, I probably never will be able to afford either one of these spectacular vehicles, but to make a statement like that is insane.

don't get me wrong, performance wise the Z06 is a hell of a car. Just don't like the interior. I'm not really looking at it from a performance stand point so when I was referring to 911 it would have to be a used one. No way on hell you can compare a new one with the GTR. I'm just more against the car because the mark. It is a freaking Nissan, not God sent gift to the World. Then Nissan makes it hard for you to mod as you like, you can't even put an intake without the car going nuts. Over all it is a great car, I just wish the hype wasn't so high and the car would get treated like any other performance car.

BTW my local dealer is getting 6 of them. Their allowance vary depending on location and present sale/type customer volume.

baseballfanz · 03-19-2008, 01:46 PM

For size comparison purpose

More infos/picts
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/92...hanks-ben.html

MR_X · 03-19-2008, 01:54 PM

^ seen that before cool comparison. I just wish they would have done it from a 911 turbo instead of a GT3.

foreignracer · 03-19-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by baseballfanz

For size comparison purpose

More infos/picts
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/92...hanks-ben.html

I wish I had both of those sitting in the driveway next to the Titan! I can't even imagine what insurance would be like,but then again, if I could afford the car, then I could (at least for a short time) afford the insurance.

dragonhead08 · 03-20-2008, 09:22 AM

just read a review where the gtr was tested against a z06 and 911 turbo. It was 5 sec a lap faster. Now thats freakin fast.

Geezus_Aach · 03-25-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_X

You are a bit wrong too. The R32, R33, R34 GTRs all came with a 2.6 ltr in line 6 twin turbos (RB26DETTs) and AWD with ATTESSA also. The GTS models came with a 2.5 ltr in line 6 single turbo (RB25DETs) and in RWD drivetrain.

you are correct. however, most of the modded Skylines Ive seen use a single fat azz GT42R turbo or the like, making 970hp+

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Originally Posted by MR_X

....Japan it be modded at all. If you take it to the track, you have to go directly to a GTR supportive Dealer and have it inspected and I believe that comes out of pocket or the warranty will be voided.

Ive heard the highly sophisticated GPS tracking, build into the car, KNOWS when you are at the track and changes it tune....???? i heard it has all the track maps stored within. anyone know more about this? Sony Playstation's "Gran Turismo4" group helped develop the center console/dash.

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Originally Posted by MR_X

....what I have read in the GTR, the ECU will reject any mods done to it. ....

true, no turbo swaps, bigger injectors, no aftmkt. boost controllers...

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Originally Posted by EVO8

MR X, any code can be broken with the right hacker. Don't believe everything you read. The GTR is an astonishing car. ... Just wait till it gets to the USA, I'm sure there are many ecu hackers waiting to get their hands on it. Time will tell.

at this moment and for quite some time...the ECU is un-hackable . even the wheels cannot be changed. tires are nitrogen filled, so no changes to the air pressure at the local gas station.
btw, i'm familar with the 'old skool' 4G63 motor (currently run DSMLINK in my evo3 '99 turbo eclipse) and know about AEM EMS. I am sooooo used to being able to change my timing or a/f ratio via laptop on command. Nissan wanted to make this car tuner un- friendly! that they did.

fwiw, most dealers are not "GTR certified" meaning they need the correct size lift, trained tech(s), and trained saleman, usually only the GM. here are some photos Ive found showing the wide stance "size" of the GTR...

Geezus_Aach · 03-25-2008, 09:02 PM

current Nürburgring lap times...

7:32 Porsche 997 GT2 2008 530 PS/1440 kg
7:38 Nissan R35 GT-R 480 PS/1740 kg
7:39 Porsche 997 GT3 415 PS/1395 kg
7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16/4 1001 PS/1888 kg
7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR 626 PS /1768 kg
7:42 Ford GT 550 PS/1521 kg
7:42 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 505 hp / 1450 kg
7:46 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 530 PS/1330 kg
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 620 PS/1690 kg
7:47 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear 640 PS/n/a
7:55 Ferrari F430 F1 490 PS/1493 kg

oh, and I would say the first few are going to be the best! these are made by hand by 14 mechanics. just sharing what info Ive heard or know....

baseballfanz · 03-25-2008, 09:40 PM

Check out this video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...nF4_154146.htm

Geezus_Aach · 03-26-2008, 09:38 PM

they say they have 2, this <black> one and a white one. i think they got the white one first... there are a few in the US, just not us spec. awesome video! i love it when they hit it at 6:02 , right after someone hits the horn! and also when they hit 160 at about 4:50

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