Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

[rholland]

Kathleen Willey

First off, give my audience a quick rundown of what initially happened between you and Bill Clinton in the Oval Office.
I went to see Bill Clinton, who was a friend of (both me) and my late husband. I was in the middle of a really, really serious financial family crisis. I had been a volunteer at the White House. I had volunteered on Bill Clinton's inaugural and I just decided...my volunteer days were over and I needed a paying job. I went to see the President to ask him for help, to see if he could help me find employment in the federal government. It didn't necessarily have to be at the White House, just with the government.
It was one of the worst days in my life. He took advantage of that situation...

Now, explain to people how it came to be known that Bill Clinton groped you during that visit.
I was subpoenaed by Paula Jones' attorneys. They were looking for women who had suffered at Bill Clinton's hands. They heard about my story...
From Linda Tripp, right?...
...I suspect it was Linda Tripp...I was then subsequently subpoenaed by Monica's attorneys and deposed under oath in her sexual harassment case.

I've read a transcript of your examination on the stand and it seemed pretty obvious to me that you were being very evasive. You seemed to be trying to do everything humanly possible to give the impression that nothing had happened between you and Bill Clinton without actually perjuring yourself. Is that the case?
I did not want to tell that story. My intention was for that story to go to my grave with me. Eventually, I just knew I had to tell the story and I did.

Like I said, in the transcript, you did everything you could to avoid talking about it and got to the point where you had to perjure yourself or tell the story, right?
That's absolutely correct...and I had been threatened a few days before that and all kinds of things had been happening to me.

Like what? Tell me about that.
Strange phone calls. You know, "We're getting ready to turn the power off, do you have small children or elderly people there?" The power company doesn't do that and the power never went off.
Then, one day, I live out in the country, in a very rural part of Virginia and...I walked out of my house one day and I had three flat tires. I wondered how that had happened and came to find out that someone had come down with a nail gun and shot the tires out in the sidewalls. I mean, you don't run over nails and get them in the sidewalls.
And I had a beloved pet of 13 years that disappeared...

That was your cat, right?
That was my cat. I put the word out...and put up pictures saying she was missing..and one morning, I was out walking at first light with my dogs, a couple of days before the deposition, and this stranger approached me and asked if I had ever found the cat. He was very knowledgable about my cat, and talked about what a nice cat he was -- talking about him in the past tense. Then he asked me if I had gotten my tires repaired -- "Did you ever get those tires fixed" -- which was when I knew something was going on. Then, the worst part was when he threatened my children by name....He said, "You're just not getting the message, are you?" The message was clear, it was to lie at that deposition in two days and not tell the story of what Bill Clinton did to me.

That person was connected to the Clintons, correct?
It's my opinion that he was.

You actually named him in the book; I read the name (Cody Shearer), but I didn't know if you were giving that out in interviews or not...
...He had an alibi -- he was investigated after I was shown a picture of him, and his alibi was not so much iron clad as uncheckable. These private investigators and their operatives have been on the Clinton payroll for years, as damage control, to come after someone like me -- and they're very good at what they do. Don't think for one minute that they don't walk around with all kinds of alibis in their back pockets. I have my opinion. I know who I saw, I know who I talked to, but that doesn't mean I can prove it.

I understand. Now, you've talked about some of the harassment you've suffered. Can you tell me about that and also about your manuscript being stolen recently?
Well, over Labor Day week-end, someone broke into my home, in the middle of the night, while I was upstairs asleep...They wanted it to look like a botched burglary...I think they came in through the screen...they took my purse, which I later found out in the woods. They didn't take the credit cards, but they took the money that was in my wallet. They broke the antenna off of my car, they tampered with my satellite system, my wireless internet system, and took the manuscript and this is within days of two stories in a national magazine and newspaper (saying) I was almost finished with my book and that it was going to be published in November. I think the person that came in here, came in here with a mission. That mission was to terrify me and get their hands on my manuscript.

Near the end of the book, you had a fascinating little paragraph on some of the harassment that other authors of Clinton books have suffered. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Well, we've got just any number of people who have criticized or questioned the Clintons and have been subjected to this kind of behavior -- former state troopers in Arkansas, of course, other women like me. Our stories are so similar it's eerie. I mean, we all tell the same stories.

Juanita Broaddrick and Gennifer Flowers have had similar stories, haven't they?
Sure, they're all very similar and I have to tell you -- I've had other women call me, who wouldn't give me their names, who've told me stories that were so similar to mine that I've had hair standing up on my arms -- at Bill Clinton's hands, in the Oval Office, at other places, in other years. This is not going to stop. The man has a serious problem...he's a sex addict....(Hillary) covers it up, she enables his behavior....

Now, one thing I have heard used against you on a number of occasions is that you asked for a job in the White House after Bill Clinton groped you. Can you tell me why you did that?
I didn't ask for it and I am glad you have given me the opportunity to address this. After my husband's death, if I thought our financial situation was bad, it was far worse than I thought it was going to be. I had children in college, I was a soccer mom, a housewife, I didn't finish college, and my best opportunity at that point for my family was to gain employment with the federal government. I didn't ask for a job in the complex, sitting right outside the Oval Office. That was the last place I wanted to be. I asked Bill Clinton to help me get a job anywhere in the federal government -- in Richmond, Virginia -- Washington -- anywhere. I was willing to move. That's what it was about. I didn't ask for a job in the White House per se, I asked for a job anywhere within the federal government.

Was there any thought on your part that maybe, "Gee, he might do this to help keep me quiet, that sort of thing?"
That he would get me a job?

Yeah, maybe he'd think, "If I get her a job, she won't testify -- if it ever came to that." I know it hadn't come up at that point.
Who knows what he thought? I can't answer that question. I will tell you, I never got a job. They certainly toyed with me. Supposedly, I was hired by his reelection campaign. I was given a start date, told where to be, when to be there, told what my salary was going to be, and never heard from them again.

Now you've said that you've learned that your husband was involved in shady financial dealings with the Clintons. Can you tell us a bit about those?
After his death, some dear friends of mine told me that my husband had told them that during the election, during the campaign, he had been carrying suitcases full of cash to Little Rock. I never knew that. He never told me that. I never saw evidence of that. He never shared that with me. So, needless to say, I was shocked by that.
I can't imagine that he would just make that up and...I don't know, I want to find out. I want to pursue that.

And you said you think that there's a possibility that the Clintons may have been involved in his death. Is that correct?
What I said was -- and again, thank you for giving me the opportunity to address this, too -- what I said was that I finally was emotionally able to look at my husband's autopsy report while writing the book and there were some things in there that got my attention. I'm not an expert and I don't pretend to be, but I did take the autopsy report and show it to an expert, a criminology and forensic expert, and she saw some pretty compelling inconsistencies in that report and she suggested that I pursue it, that I get further opinions, which I am doing. I feel like I owe that to his memory, I owe that to my children, and for my own piece of mind. I want to know what happened. That's what I talked about briefly in my book.

I got you. That makes perfect sense...just, as an interesting side note, you complained a bit about the atmosphere in general in the White House -- how people didn't seem to respect the office. They commonly used bad language, didn't dress appropriately, etc. Tell me a bit about that.
Ever seen the movie Animal House? It was kind of like that. There was no dress code, pizza boxes all over the Oval Office, everybody's feet up on the furniture, foul language, obviously no respect for the...White House, for the office of the presidency. It was pretty appalling and I witnessed that on a regular basis. I don't think it's supposed to be that way.

Are you disappointed that feminists haven't stuck by you? After all, you were groped by Bill Clinton and unquestionably, the Clintons have worked to destroy your reputation. Do you ever sit and wonder, "Gee, where are all these feminists who are supposed to be looking out for ordinary women like me..."
Of course, I did. Every night, when I was being raked over the coals by the Clintonistas, of course I did. Believe me, I appealed to the feminists. I called the National Organization for Women. I asked for their help, but they weren't going to criticize him. He was their guy. He was their man. He was pro-choice...they were in no position to criticize him or validate me and they didn't.
You know, think about it: where are they today? You don't see representatives of NOW. Where are the feminists? Where are they? I think Bill and Hillary Clinton pretty much shut them down. The feminists, NOW, they're all about one issue: abortion. They're not talking about women's rights, being an advocate for women, or equality in the work place. Those aren't issues anymore. It's abortion, plain and simple.

Along similar lines, a big part of Hillary Clinton's campaign for the presidency has involved playing up her gender and promising to stand up for single mothers. Yet, you're a woman who was a loyal Democrat and a Clinton supporter and after you were victimized by her husband, Hillary helped work to try to personally destroy you. What message do you give to women who are considering voting for Hillary in...
Well, that's one of the reasons that I wrote my book. I hope that women, men and women, but women especially, young women, first time voters, who are excited about voting for a woman for President for the first time in our history -- this woman claims to be a champion for women, a women's advocate, a feminist, but look what she has done to me. Look what she has done. And believe me, when I say look what she's done, she gears up the war room. She enables his behavior, she cleans up after him. It has been going on since before they were married and it will continue because his behavior has not stopped. This is no advocate for women. If this is what she's going to do to women like me, who unfortunately crossed paths with her husband, a sex addict and a predator, she is not a champion for women and she is not a women's advocate. I hope that young women will at least read my book, read my story, and think about what it would be like to be caught in the crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Last question, tell us a little bit about your book, Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Well, I talk about everything we've discussed today in detail. I talk about what it was like. I talk about the harassment. I talk about the threats to my safety -- the threats to my children, the loss of a beloved pet, and being afraid to live in my own home. I think that no man or woman, in this country, should be subjected to this sort of harassment, intimidation, and threats. This is not what our forefathers had in mind for us. Hopefully, people will read this book and arm themselves with knowledge before they go into the voting booth and vote.

...I really appreciate your time.
Thank you for the opportunity.

[bestatchess]

While exactly what happened between Clinton and Willey remains unclear, one thing is crystal clear: Willey is a confirmed liar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Willey

[rholland]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

While exactly what happened between Clinton and Willey remains unclear, one thing is crystal clear: Willey is a confirmed liar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Willey

And so are all the other women that had run ins with Bill Clinton,
After Hillary and her hit squad of lawyers and private investergators, (called the Bimbo Squad), got though with them.
Is it not amazing, that so many people that were involved with the Clintons, committed suicide. We know about Vince Foster, but there are a lot more.

Bimbo Deconstruction
The very idea of meaning smacks of fascism.
-- postmodernist Paul de Man of Yale, ca. 1968
The arts of power and its minions are the same in all countries and in all ages. It marks its victim; denounces it; and excites the public odium and the public hatred, to conceal its own abuses and encroachments.
-- Senator Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky), 1834
One of the most fascinating phenomena about the whole Zippergate scandal has always been the reaction of the press and the Washington nomenklatura (which largely amounts to the same thing, of course) to new developments and revelations.
Since at least 1992, anyone who has been paying the slightest attention has known two things about Bill Clinton: 1) He is a liar (an unusually good one, according to Senator Bob Kerrey), and 2) he has a serious problem with sex. The Arkansas press has, in fact, known both of those things since at least 1982.
We had plenty of warning. The Washington Post, house-organ of the Beltway elite, reported in the summer of 1992 that the Clinton campaign had assigned Betsy Wright to handle "bimbo eruptions." Gennifer Flowers was given her five minutes of fame, Clinton admitted to "problems in my marriage" on national TV, and thereafter any mention of Clinton's pathological sex life was "old news" and "partisan smears." But Betsy Wright stayed on the job.
Then in the January 1994 American Spectator we learned that Arkansas State Troopers had regularly played the procurer for Governor Bill. "Disgusting, irresponsible right-wing propaganda," of course. The White House spin machine didn't even have to crank itself up; the national press for the most part simply ignored the story. Until Paula Jones appeared.
For the sake of the historical record, here's the paragraph in full from David Brock's article that sent Paula to court to clear her reputation:
One of the troopers told the story of how Clinton had eyed a woman at a reception at the Excelsior Hotel in downtown Little Rock. According to the trooper, who told the story to both Patterson and Perry as well, Clinton asked him to approach the woman, whom the trooper remembered only as Paula, tell her how attractive the governor thought she was, and take her to a room in the hotel where Clinton would be waiting. As the troopers explained it, the standard procedure in a case like this was for one of them to inform the hotel that the governor needed a room for a short time because he was expecting an important call from the White House. (Not a terribly plausible story during the Reagan and Bush years, but it seemed to work like a charm with hotel clerks in Arkansas.) On this particular evening, after her encounter with Clinton, which lasted no more than an hour as the trooper stood by in the hall, the trooper said Paula told him she was available to be Clinton's regular girlfriend if he so desired.
This is in the context of an account of a long series of "brief affairs and one-time encounters from 1987 through early 1993," and Brock includes it simply as an illustrative anecdote.
Paula Jones recognized herself in this story and sued. She didn't like being regarded as a bimbo.
So the Clinton Bimbo Deconstruction Squad went into action. "She's only after the money," whispered White House trial lawyers, who should know all about only being after the money. "Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park ...." hissed James Carville, diving for a dime. "Did you see her on C-SPAN? She's certainly not a cultured person," sniffed the intellegentsia, whose vaunted egalitarianism apparently accords basic human dignity and civil rights only to Ivy League graduates. And the press and the Washington elite dutifully repeated this character assassination, occasionally even being discreet enough to lower their voices as they did so.
Note well: The Democratic Party establishment has for more than a century proclaimed itself the defender of the little guy, the champion of ordinary working people against the powerful and the well-connected. But there it was, devoting itself nearly full time to trashing the character and veracity of a minimum-wage receptionist whose only offenses were decency and self-respect!
It turned out, though, that this was just the warmup. Since then -- doesn't it seem ages ago? -- we've seen the same smear tactics used relentlessly on everyone perceived as a threat to the Clinton regime -- Gingrich, Starr, Linda Tripp, Kathleen Willey, even Henry Hyde -- all with the eager assistance of a fawning national press.
(Those confidential files sure came in handy, didn't they? One of the counts in the "abuse of power" charge against Nixon was misuse of one FBI file; Hillary's enforcer Craig Livingstone kindly provided the Clintons with more than 900.)
The basic all-purpose Bimbo Deconstruction tactics have been used continuously throughout the Clinton presidency, and the national media goes along with it every time.
When someone points out, for example, that the proposed Health Care package makes a doctor subject to Federal felony prosecution for simply accepting a patient on a cash basis, attack the messenger. Accuse him of wanting the poor to die in the gutter of horrible diseases. Point out that his grandmother's hysterectomy was paid for by Medicare. Attack the greedy medical profession. Anything to change the subject and obfuscate the question. And most importantly: never, never address the actual issue. Distract. Cover the complaint with a barrage of verbiage. There is no such thing as meaning, there is only rhetoric. There is no such thing as a fact, there are only words.
Postmodern politics. Derrida with a submachine gun. And the chattering classes are swallowing it whole.
One of the things that most defines the modern intellectual is his comfort in the sophisticated world of abstraction and symbols, words and ideas and grand conceptualizations. Perhaps that's why they seem to be much more easily seduced (if you'll pardon the expression) by the Clinton machine's sophistries.
Everyday working people, though, tend to be much more connected to the real world of things and facts. You can't simply talk your car into running, or distract your toaster from its broken power cord.*
This probably explains why the reaction to the President's first apology (August 17th) was, amazingly, near-universal condemnation from the national media -- The New York Times, for example, came closer to officially frothing at the mouth than ever before in my memory (aside from Anthony Lewis, of course, whose apparent continual frothing is actually just creative drooling) -- while for most of the public it was just "ho-hum." The ordinary citizen had known at least since January that Clinton was lying; only our self-styled elite was dumb enough to be taken in.
But it's been about a month now (as I write this in mid-October) since Apology I, and the pundits seem once again to have become confused by the high-powered thought-jamming transmitters in the White House. So let's try one more time to clarify things for these reality-challenged glitterati:
It's not about sex, if you want to dignify Clinton's activities with that term. (It would be more accurate to refer to it as a particularly dehumanized mixture of immature schoolboy erotic fantasy, incredibly self-centered promiscuity, and the medieval droit du seigneur. But never mind.) And no, everybody doesn't do it. Military and corporate careers have been ended for far less.
It's not even about lying about sex, and no, everybody doesn't do that, either.
It's about lying under oath in a court of law with the specific purpose of depriving another human being of her right to redress as a citizen of the United States of America. No, everybody doesn't do that either; when they do, they're thrown in jail.
It's not about Kenneth Starr's investigative authority, which is the spinners' line this week. It is not about an affair Henry Hyde had thirty years ago, nor some foolhardy liaisons John Kennedy had nearly forty years ago, which were the spinners' lines last week and the week before, respectively.
It's about whether a public employee who has shown such egregious disrespect for the law, for his constituents, and for his office should be allowed to continue to serve as the chief law enforcement official for a quarter of a billion people.
And it's not just a question of semantics.
________________________________________
Still, though, Paula can count herself lucky to have gotten off with only character assassination and an IRS audit.
(Of course, of course, working girls making less than $20,000 a year are prime candidates for IRS audits, didn't you know that? Another one of the counts against Nixon was merely discussing the use of the IRS against political opponents.
By an odd coincidence, the National Rifle Association, the Cato Institute, the Western Journalism Center, the National Review, and a dozen other organizations critical of Clinton's policies were audited by the IRS in 1996. By an even odder coincidence, no think tank or publication sympathetic to Clinton has been audited during his entire administration.)
• Kathleen Willey, a Democratic activist groped by the President in November 1993, got her tires slashed and her cat stolen. Then a strange man accosted her in a park, asked about her cat by name, and mentioned that the same thing might happen to her children if she wasn't careful.
• Elizabeth Ward Gracen, the popular TV actress who has admitted she had an affair with Clinton in her teens when she was Miss Arkansas, was offered acting jobs in return for denying the affair. Once when she was vacationing in the Caribbean her beach cabana was ransacked; she believes it was Clinton goons looking for (nonexistent) incriminating tapes, since $2000 in cash and a Rolex watch, both in plain sight, were untouched.
• Another Miss Arkansas, Sally Perdue, was warned -- in front of a witness -- that if she didn't keep quiet about her cocaine-laden 1983 affair with Clinton, something "might happen to her pretty little legs."
• Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of the trooper who brought Paula Jones to the hotel room and a corroborating witness in the case, "shot herself" in her living room in May 1994. With all her suitcases packed and ready for a trip. Apparently sometimes character assassination and intimidation aren't enough. Her boyfriend Bill Shelton, who was investigating Kathy's death, "shot himself" a month later....
• Suzanne Coleman had an affair with Clinton twenty years ago, when he was Arkansas' Attorney General. She "shot herself" in the back of the head while seven months pregnant with (according to her) Bill's child -- very awkward, and most female suicides prefer means other than guns.

So maybe the postmodernists are right; maybe there is no truth, there is no meaning, there are just words. Spin is everything. If the New York Times and Newsweek didn't report it, it didn't happen.
But at least two things are certain: That the Clintons' disdain for the law isn't restricted to just the Bill of Rights and the perjury statutes. And that some bimbos get more thoroughly deconstructed than others.

[kman]

which is worse, treason or infidelity?

[rholland]

I wondered why the goverment of China gave Bill Clinton $10 million,
but yes, his treason is worst than his infidelity.

Clinton Gave China Chips for Nuclear War

Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.
The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.

"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."

"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the Commerce Department documents.

These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles.

Judicial Watch obtained the documents through the Freedom of Information Act, a Washington-based political watchdog group.

Several documents were withheld from release by the U.S. Commerce Department for commercial and personal privacy exemptions, but none of the documents were withheld for national security reasons. Judicial Watch is expected to appeal the withholdings.

Decade of Betrayal

U.S. intelligence sources stated that the newly released documents illustrate the extent to which the Clinton White House placed trade – and trade with China specifically – above national security.

"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher, Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

"If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites. This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility," stated Fisher.

"Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were assisting a PLA strategic military capability," concluded Fisher.

In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear arsenal

[chunko]

You guys really think Clinton was worse than Bush?

Man oh man....

A bj vs war on false pretenses....which is worse? Which president sent our economy into the tank? Which president can't even make a god d@mn coherent sentence, and never accomplished anything that his f*cking daddy didn't hand him on a silver platter.

Oh geez...what have I started. I hope after he wins the primary Mccain show's his more centrist views and we have a chance at a decent candidate....too bad mccain didn't get the nod 8 years ago...Bush is such a f*cking moron...

[rholland]

Originally Posted by adavis99

You guys really think Clinton was worse than Bush?

Man oh man....

A bj vs war on false pretenses....which is worse? Which president sent our economy into the tank? Which president can't even make a god d@mn coherent sentence, and never accomplished anything that his f*cking daddy didn't hand him on a silver platter.

Oh geez...what have I started. I hope after he wins the primary Mccain show's his more centrist views and we have a chance at a decent candidate....too bad mccain didn't get the nod 8 years ago...Bush is such a f*cking moron...

Yes, 1000 times worst.

[bestatchess]

Originally Posted by rholland

I wondered why the goverment of China gave Bill Clinton $10 million,
but yes, his treason is worst than his infidelity.

Clinton has banked maybe $60,000,000 in speaking fees since being president, which is pretty nice, but actually chump change compared to the Saudi - Carlye - Bush action.

[bbomar]

Wow, another political thread!!!!

[rrumaner]

Just remember the rules gang. If you are not sure what they are, I suggest you reread them.

Beside, who the fu*k cares about anything Clinton did or did not do. He hasn't been the President for over 8 years.

[bbomar]

Originally Posted by rrumaner

Just remember the rules gang. If you are not sure what they are, I suggest you reread them.

Beside, who the fu*k cares about anything Clinton did or did not do. He hasn't been the President for over 8 years.

LMAO!! Way to tell R!!

[Blakker08]

Originally Posted by rrumaner

Just remember the rules gang. If you are not sure what they are, I suggest you reread them.

Beside, who the fu*k cares about anything Clinton did or did not do. He hasn't been the President for over 8 years.

Amen

Bill Clinton is not the criterion by which all other presidents should be judged. If ole slick Willy had orgies in the Lincoln bedroom, that still doesn't absolve the Commander in Chimp from his misdeeds.

You can't compare Bush to Clinton every time Bush screws up and someone makes mention of it.

"but Clinton, but, but, Clinton" but my a*s. Bush is what he is, and no Clinton is going to make that look better.

-B

[TallTexan]

We care because the Dems are trying to put another one in office. Hillary is more crooked than Bill. Obama is in fantasy land. John McCain is full of shart but looks like a new born babe compared to the two lefties. Beam me up Scottie, Elvis has left the building.

[rholland]

These freaking liberals, when one of theirs gets caught, oh everyone does it, oh, it's no big deal.
But let even a rumor that a Republican did something, then the liberal press and the Soros crowd reports it as fact.
No one has ever had any proof that Bush has done any of the things that he has been accused of, if the democrat controlled congress had any proof of any wrongdoing, Bush would have already been impeached.

Bush did not fly those planes into the Twin Towers.

[kman]

what's more crooked than being taken to war on false pretenses? like Blakker said, your logic is well clinton did this and clinton did that, therefore everything Bush has done is absolved.