Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

[37L1]

Originally Posted by rholland

You shoudn't a done that, now Al Gore's company is going to have to be devalued, he lost the Internet, now there goes Carbon Offsets.

One of the responses found on my link above, LMFAO!!

That brainless term By GS Allen on 2/26/08, Rating: 5

By GS Allen on 2/26/2008 7:23:58 PM , Rating: 5

The essence of climate is change, evolution, cyclicality. It's idiotic to speak of "climate change" as if it is the advent of some newly discovered phenomenon. So let's just call it weather. Obviously from climate records, weather changes within even 50 year periods are often simply a natural cycling of oceanic and atmospheric tendencies. BFD. Anyone looking at the mid-troposphere temperature charts brought to us by satellite (http://www.junkscience.com/MSU_Temps/Warming_Look.... will note the record & gigantic EL Nino of '97-98. How surprising that ocean and global land temps elevated thereafter (at least in the northern hemisphere), and are now coming down as evinced by the 2007-2008 decline in that record of approximately 0.60°C. The raised-temp anomaly is petering out. BFD. All the hysteria induced by over-caffeinated environmentalists and wishful media drones was, yet again, misplaced emotionalism and childish fatalism that arises in cycles as prevalent as temporarily-enduring changes in the weather, oceans and mid atmosphere. 9/11 has warped an unprecedented number of personal psychologies, especially in those most exposed to its tragic images (the media ilk), and those most guilt-ridden about living in the highly consumptive and highly productive USA (the socialists, greenies and sundry malcontents who would denigrate Paradise for its pleasantly immutable continuum). With the sun going into timid mode, CO2 is deflating as the socio-economic bane exceeded only by Jack the Ripper or HIV. While fatal heat waves have been common throughout history, record cold and record snow in the last few years are really the anomalies of significance. Such are known to precede ice ages, precipitation for which is induced by a period of warming weather that is but a gnat's hair on the astrophysical time scale. So the foolish Cassandras and Tiresiass who ride their bikes with a bag of CFLs should just shut up for a while and cool it. Unusually hot weather occurred for modest periods prior to Henry Ford and Eli Whitney, as did imposingly icy periods that kicked Greenland's arse and dug out all the beautiful lakes in the Midwest. It's just the world; mostly saltwater, wrapped in an atmospheric blanket and bombarded by solar flux - victim of an interplay of natural forces that cycle up and down. Just because a few insects of green hue have learned how to trumpet like discomfited elephants is by no means grounds for mass hysteria; even if half of them are liberal-arts majors pontificating from the media pulpit, espousing "scientific fact" like herbal supplement hawkers in infomercials. We've become unnecessarily overwhelmed by such "information sources" because most of us are too lazy to devote time to research of scientific articles on the web. Unwilling to master new terminology and concepts with our overtaxed noggins, we feast at the trough of pre-canned, sensationalist-media Pablum that any cub reporter can lace with epithets and phrases that leave no room for doubt or debate, ostensibly.
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Of all that is allegedly unusual today, the most alarming has to be the tendency toward mass hysteria about the "unusual" weather, and even more so the inclination of utterly unscientific politicians to almost immediately generate wrong-headed legislation to outlaw Edison's masterpiece, tax the hell out of everyone in a fantastical attempt to "limit carbon emissions to safe levels," and to impose urban entry fees on drivers efficiently hauling the largest loads. Do-gooder insanity! And a 'good' based on insufficient science still in acrimonious debate (hidden from the public by liberal TV media, but not the Net). But the facts never caused hesitation in politicians when they saw a ripe opportunity. As we are hysterical together, so we will be unfairly taxed together. We had to learn...when a mass movement arose not against a foreign enemy, but against ourselves and way of life. Somehow, the guilt Gorgon, that had for centuries been kept restrained in the church basement, has sneaked into the popular, secular conscience, its cells dividing like evil yeast that clot the synapses across which impulses of reason and skepticism once spryly jumped with relative ease. Oh my GOD! We're doomed for enjoying life and consumerism! CO2 sinning is rampant! Polar bears are drifting on rudderless bergs to their demise! Getting on an airliner is akin to visiting a whorehouse! Clinical self-consciousness IS appropriate each time you throw plastic or food in the trash! Corn is better placed in our fuel tanks than into the mouths of starving millions! SENSE A GREEN THEME HERE? If the 3.4% of our population that is homosexual can introduce hate-crimes laws affecting us all, and elementary-school texts that normalize pathological-gender concepts...don't be surprised when eco-morphs upset national economies and reverse the decline in world starvation as a tolerable sacrifice to the higher, anti-capitalist, anti-industrialism goal. Organized, over-educated yuppies were bound to trump the status-quo, dinosaur politicians at their own game. Computer illiteracy has its price...

[kttnmthking]

i have to agree with amnut scare tactics are just an easy way to pass laws and make money

[cneary812]

its called the cat and mouse game. Nobody really knows what will happen if we continue to do what we do best. But you can't tell me that we haven't done more damage to the earth than our ancestors. Politicians are there to make our heads spin so they can fund research for their causes and discredit their competition vice versa...

[Overide]

I agree with the statements above that global warming is pretty much horse sh!t, but I do believe that a lot of the efforts to reduce the CO2 emissions are a good thing.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by Overide

I agree with the statements above that global warming is pretty much horse sh!t, but I do believe that a lot of the efforts to reduce the CO2 emissions are a good thing.

So you see no connection to C02 emissions and their impact (even potentially) on climate?

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by Overide

I agree with the statements above that global warming is pretty much horse sh!t, but I do believe that a lot of the efforts to reduce the CO2 emissions are a good thing.

So you see no connection to C02 emissions and their impact (even potentially) on climate?

[TitanLou]

I think that Global waming is total BS, but I do believe that we are polluting our planet to death. We need to load all this trash up on the next space shuttle mission and dump it in space.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TitanLou

I think that Global waming is total BS, but I do believe that we are polluting our planet to death. We need to load all this trash up on the next space shuttle mission and dump it in space.

We are polluting our planet to death. I agree.

What is the impact of those gases have on the atmosphere? What causes the greenhouse effect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_effect

C02 emissions

Can the earth repair itself? Yes if given time to do so...

If it cannot, what happens? Temperatures climb.

[TitanLou]

From watching the History channel and the Discovery channel it seems like a big volcano will probably erupt in the near future and all this talk about global warming will be dead. We wil all be in an ice age.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TitanLou

From watching the History channel and the Discovery channel it seems like a big volcano will probably erupt in the near future and all this talk about global warming will be dead. We wil all be in an ice age.

Good one! You forgot Or asteroid hitting.

I'll agree that the factors of man creating/adding to and natural order of climatic changes are quite mixed up and as a result, one cannot be so certain that this phenomenon over the past 30 years is as absolute as some make it to be.

[cneary812]

Originally Posted by TitanLou

I think that Global waming is total BS, but I do believe that we are polluting our planet to death. We need to load all this trash up on the next space shuttle mission and dump it in space.

better send a good windshild repair man with it

http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/...uestion22.html

[Overide]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

So you see no connection to C02 emissions and their impact (even potentially) on climate?

I didnt say that, I think that the current scare tactics that are being used and the title that the tree huggers have given these scare tactics "Global Warming" is bullchit. I think that we should all try to reduce our usage, and try to keep the quality of our air higher. If you read all the postings above, they make a lot of sense why global warming is a bullchit scare tactic.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by Overide

If you read all the postings above, they make a lot of sense why global warming is a bullchit scare tactic.

Someone stating that Greenhouse gases cause a warming affect upon the climate and the continued occurrence of that effect could result in global temperatures being unnaturally raised and melting the ice isn't a scare tactic.

It's a fact.

That some don't like how certain politicians explain it/use it for their agendas doesn't make global warming any less of a real threat.

That in the past, the earth has certainly seen climatic eras in which the temperatures were higher than now or lower than now is not the issue. That humans are creating the situation is.

[37L1]

Get with it. It isn't Global Warming it's Climate Change, c'mon try and keep up.

[Noseeum]

If our impact on global warming was so clear and simple, then we would not still be sitting around researching this stuff. To call it a "fact" is overestimating the knowledge that we currently have. The climate of the earth is going to change no matter what we do. Or did the big bad oil companies cause the extinction of the dinosaurs too?