does not deserve to be president

[billaj]

Originally Posted by FaFaFooey

Maybe it's just me but the fact someone doesn't put their hand over their heart when the Pledge is being said really doesn't upset me. Isn't there bigger things in life to worry about?

It was the national anthem, not the pledge lol.

If it were the pledge and he didn't put his hand over his heart, than that would be a different story

[FaFaFooey]

My bad, the Anthem. I've never once put my hand over my heart during the National Anthem. I take my hat off at the ball game and sing along. I just think this is way too much nitpicking. It's like whatever we can do to disgrace who is running, lets use it. I'm not an Obama fan either. I think we need change though, and I'm willing to vote in that change...whoever it may be.

[dogstar]

It amazes me anyone would run for President for any party. Once you commit to run its a feeding frenzy on your character usually to the negitive. I think anyone who would be a really good President takes a pass because they don't want the hassle, so all we get are ego-centric narcisists who we all hope don't get us all killed.

[TallTexan]

Barrac Hussein Obamma. Enough said. I take my hat off when the Anthem is played and I also put my hand over my heart. In the service , I saluted that flag morning and night. I have saluted a few caskets with that flag draped over it. It means a lot more to me than just a symbol. I can understand that someone who has never risked their life in defense of that flag might not think a lot about it. I always watch at parades when the flag passes by to see who are the first to stand up. Old codgers like me jump up quick because it reminds me of friends who cannot be there because they died defending our rights to fly it. If Obamma wants to be Commander and Chief, he needs to honor that flag and what it stands for.

[nytitan1]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Barrac Hussein Obamma. Enough said. I take my hat off when the Anthem is played and I also put my hand over my heart. In the service , I saluted that flag morning and night. I have saluted a few caskets with that flag draped over it. It means a lot more to me than just a symbol. I can understand that someone who has never risked their life in defense of that flag might not think a lot about it. I always watch at parades when the flag passes by to see who are the first to stand up. Old codgers like me jump up quick because it reminds me of friends who cannot be there because they died defending our rights to fly it. If Obamma wants to be Commander and Chief, he needs to honor that flag and what it stands for.

Thank you you said it better then i could some will not understand but ex military will always get it.

[Steelyeyedone]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Barrac Hussein Obamma. Enough said. I take my hat off when the Anthem is played and I also put my hand over my heart. In the service , I saluted that flag morning and night. I have saluted a few caskets with that flag draped over it. It means a lot more to me than just a symbol. I can understand that someone who has never risked their life in defense of that flag might not think a lot about it. I always watch at parades when the flag passes by to see who are the first to stand up. Old codgers like me jump up quick because it reminds me of friends who cannot be there because they died defending our rights to fly it. If Obamma wants to be Commander and Chief, he needs to honor that flag and what it stands for.

I couldnt agree more. Id like to choke the sh1t out of anyone who doesnt show the proper respect to the Flag. BUT, (always a but) we did fight for their right to be a disrespectful POS. Ironic.

[rholland]

Obama has sworn his un-divided allegiance to Africa. His wife has never been proud of America, Her words not mine, until Obama started winning in the primaries.
The website for his church use to say it all, they’ve taken the most offensive parts out since it came to national attention, but it is a racist church.
I would still vote for Obana over Clinton, they are both liberal socialist.


http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

A congregation committed to ADORATION.
A congregation preaching SALVATION.
A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
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A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY

[TallTexan]

I watched a black preacher on tv the other day that had quite a revelation. He says that he has proof that the blacks in the US actually can be traced from Egypt. He says that being from Egypt means they were slave owners and traders and now God is punishing them for their past sins. This guy was no flunkie and was preaching to a large black church. I bet Jesse was having heart problems. He needs that sympathy card to play to get more goodies from Hillary or Osama-Obama.

[goathead]

if you go to any sporting event where the national anthem is played, you will see normal americans not putting their hand over their heart. i for one, do. however, i personally would not question any of these other people at the chiefs game about their patriotism because they did not do it. so, i do not put too much stock in this picture. having said that, a person in his position should be a little more prudent about his actions.

[rholland]

''Life's tough.....it's even tougher if you're stupid.''
~ John Wayne

Say What, Barrack?

By Paul R. Hollrah

Tuning in to C-Span recently, I found myself listening to a speech by Senator Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr. He was standing in the pulpit of a black church in Selma, Alabama, and as I studi ed the body language of the dozen or so black ministers standing behind the senator, I couldn't help but be reminded of the little head-bobbing dolls that people used to place in the rear windows of their 1957 Chevrolets. If their reactions are any indication, the new "Schlickmeister" of the Democrat Party is actually a pre tty accomplished public speaker.

However, as he spoke, I found my bull_ _ _ _ alarm going off, repeatedly. But I couldn't quite figure out why until I actually read excerpts of his speech several days later. Here's part of what he said:
"...something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "ripples of hope all a round the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children.

"When (black) men who had PhD's decided 'that's enough' and 'we're going to stand up for our dignity,' that sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance.

"So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an airlift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

"This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great g reat-great-great- grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that, (in) the world as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. Was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama."

Okay, so what's wrong with that? It all sounds good. bu t is it?

Obama told his audience that, because some folks had the courage to "march across a bridge" in Selma, Alabama, his mother, a white woman from Kansas, and his father, a black Muslim from Africa, took heart. It gave them the courage to get married and have a child. The problem with that characterization is that Barrack Obama, Jr., was born on August 4, 1961, while the first of three marches across that bridge in Selma didn't occur until March 7, 1965, at least five years after Obama's parents met.

Obama went on to tell his audience that the Kennedys, Jack and Bobby, decided to do an airlift. They would bring some young Africans over so that they could be educated and learn all about America. His grandfather heard that call and sent his son, Barrack Obama, Sr., to America .

The problem with that scenario is that, having been born in August 1961, the future senator was not conceived until sometime in November 1960. So if this African grandfather heard words that ''sent a shout across oceans,'' inspiring him to send his goat-herder son to America, it was not a Democrat Jack Kennedy he heard, nor his brother Bobby, it was a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Obama's speech is reminiscent of Al Gore's claim of having invented the Internet, Hillary Clinton's claim of having been named after the first man to climb Mt. Everest. even though she was born five years and seven months before Sir Edmund climbed the mountain, and John Kerry's imaginary trip to Cambodia.

As one of my black friends, Eddie Huff, has said, "We need to ask some very serious questions of the senator from Illinois. It's not enough to be black, it's not enough to be articulate, and it's not enough to be eloquent and a media darling. The only question will be how deaf an ear, or how blind an eye, will people turn in order to turn a frog into a prince."

[Doola36]

Originally Posted by Steelyeyedone

I couldnt agree more. Id like to choke the sh1t out of anyone who doesnt show the proper respect to the Flag. BUT, (always a but) we did fight for their right to be a disrespectful POS. Ironic.

LOL....I like to look at it more than just the flag and respect. I have served in the armed forces and I did what I had to do. But as in for putting my hand over my heart and all that stuff I did it because I had to. I am proud of my country but I don't think that it is disrespect if somebody doesn't follow a tradition if they do want to.


I may put my hand over my heart but 9 out of 10 I probably want. To me people put to much into it. They go crazy over how you handle and treat the flag. I have been to funeral of our fallen ones and it was touching. I would like to say a few more things but I think it would it offend someone. So I will leave saying this. You are an older gentleman and I understand how you fell about the flag but as a younger gentleman like myself I think we put to much thought on what we see. We go crazy over a flag but we should be going crazy over our veterans who went homeless because they didn’t have the proper care.

[roy365]

Originally Posted by Doola36

LOL....I like to look at it more than just the flag and respect. I have served in the armed forces and I did what I had to do. But as in for putting my hand over my heart and all that stuff I did it because I had to. I am proud of my country but I don't think that it is disrespect if somebody doesn't follow a tradition if they do want to.


I may put my hand over my heart but 9 out of 10 I probably want. To me people put to much into it. They go crazy over how you handle and treat the flag. I have been to funeral of our fallen ones and it was touching. I would like to say a few more things but I think it would it offend someone. So I will leave saying this. You are an older gentleman and I understand how you fell about the flag but as a younger gentleman like myself I think we put to much thought on what we see. We go crazy over a flag but we should be going crazy over our veterans who went homeless because they didn’t have the proper care.

Man this upsets me a bit i cant lie. Sounds like you didnt really WANT to be in the military? Sounds like it didnt mean that much to you to defend what you call home? But to each their own. It just appears that you were merely "doing your job" from your post.

A president of The United States should at the bare minimum recognize the flag and it's ceremonial events associated.

[MXtitan24]

that is photoshopped. i guess we could jump on hilary in that picture for not looking at the flag..

why would a man who is a political figure not salute the flag during the national anthem?

[roy365]

Originally Posted by MXtitan24

that is photoshopped. i guess we could jump on hilary in that picture for not looking at the flag..

why would a man who is a political figure not salute the flag during the national anthem?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp


Peep game homey.

[MXtitan24]

snopes..

wow the green and red balls never lie


honestly why would a man running for presidency destroy his own campaign?
has he done this on multiple occasions? or just this one time