does not deserve to be president

[rholland]

Originally Posted by radiokid

Considering what we have been through the last 7 or so years, how much scarier could it get.

We've had the best economy that we have had in twenty years, the lowest un-employment, and the lowest interest rates.
NBC, CBS and ABC News tells us every day how bad we have it, and like a bunch of mind numbed robots, we just keep repeating it.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by radiokid

Considering what we have been through the last 7 or so years, how much scarier could it get.

It could get a lot scarier! Obama will never fight even after terrorists come across his open borders and set off a couple of nukes. He will have Jesse investigate it and ask the UN to help us. This guy is a fake and has a hidden agenda. He might get elected but we all will pay the price. I remember watching millions of Germans cheering Hitler. We know the end to that story.

[radiokid]

I'm not defending Osama at all. But the evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.

[GRAYGHOST]

This is a long article but it is true. I cannot believe that the media is giving him a free ride on this one but they are....so far. How bad could it get???? Pretty damned bad if this guy ever comes into power.....
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama.../14/64332.html

[Doola36]

Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST

This is a long article but it is true. I cannot believe that the media is giving him a free ride on this one but they are....so far. How bad could it get???? Pretty damned bad if this guy ever comes into power.....
http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama.../14/64332.html

But did you see his response on the debate last night? I think that it is funny how people can post things that they have read and call it true. I'm not a supporter of Obama but it just cracks me up when i see the post in this thread.

And no matter who is the president they still have to answer to other people and have other people backing them up.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by radiokid

I'm not defending Osama at all. But the evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.

When CNN, ABC and CBS states a lie, people pick it up and run with it. I can remember long gas lines and gas shortages back in the 70's and no one assumed that some Texas oil men caused it all. The absolute truth is that the lliberal treehuggers has stopped nuke power plants from being built so we can , as France has done, secure our power requirements for the future. The left coasts have denied any drilling any where near them and for sure not in Alaska where a moose may get the farts. California is a good example. They have to buy power from the other states because they and the trehuggers will not build power plants. Hell, they import water. They don't mind getting their oil from Texas bays. The old not in my back yard syndrome. So now that the libs and treehuggers has driven us into a dependence on foreign oil they want to blame it on two old oil guys. They know there are always folks who don't have a clue about anything will bite and carry on the message.

[Tmaxxattack]

Originally Posted by radiokid

I'm not defending Osama at all. But the evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.

You have a good point. Creating a foundation for long term middle east peace to develop and spread through the establishment of a free democratic nation, with people free of the threat of a murderous dictator whose sole existance relied on middle east instability, seemed like a pretty big task but it looks like it may be possible with patience and perseverance.

As a side benefit it is a culling ground for the terrorists and their organizations that do not support middle east peace. Their efforts demonstrate at least they 'get' why we're there and the importance of not establishing a peaceful Iraq, otherwise they'd just lay low for a year or so until we left.

[rholland]

Originally Posted by radiokid

I'm not defending Osama at all. But the evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.

You should have said, The main stream liberal media says, evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.
Then you would have been correct.

[rholland]

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'

Barack Obama's Jobs Plan
If anyone wants to why I oppose Barack Obama, we can start with his economic policy. He unveiled his plan to create jobs today.



Democrat Barack Obama said Wednesday that as president he would spend $210 billion to create jobs in construction and environmental industries, as he tried to win over economically struggling voters. Obama's investment would be over 10 years as part of two programs. The larger is $150 billion to create 5 million so-called "green collar" jobs to develop more environmentally friendly energy sources.


Sixty billion would go to a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank to rebuild highways, bridges, airports and other public projects. Obama estimated that could generate nearly 2 million jobs, many of them in the construction industry that's been hit by the housing crisis.



First of all, anyone plan that spends only 200 billion dollars over ten years is nothing more than window dressing and will likely have negligible effect anyway. (Bush's tax cuts came to roughly 1.3 trillion dollars over the same time period for instance) Let's put that to the side for just for a minute. Obama's philosophy is 180 degrees opposite of mine. I generally distrust the government, and I believe that jobs are almost always better created by the private sector. I believe the best way to create jobs is to simply cut taxes across the board. Obama clearly embraces government playing a role in more not less of our lives. He wants universal health care and now his plan to create jobs also has government taking the lead.

This plan is likely an homage to liberal icon FDR. It is still to this day debateable just how much his massive government spending helped create jobs. What isn't debateable is just how much bureaucracy that plan added. Working in mortgages, I know the corrossive effects of bureaucracy and thus I am turned off by any plan that creates an added layer. To me Obama's plan is frankly nothing more than sophisticated vote buying. He targets those that are struggling and then tells them the government will take care of them. This, like much of his economic policy, flirts with socialism. I envision private industry leading our economy whereas Obama envisions the federal government doing it

[GRAYGHOST]

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But did you see his response on the debate last night? I think that it is funny how people can post things that they have read and call it true. Im not a supporter of Obama but it just cracks me up when i see the post in this thread 


Everything in that article was accurate, in fact, a good bit was taken from his churches web site. Rev Wright (WRONG!) has long stood for these beliefs. They only reciently started pulling the more questionable things off there website for fear that it might start to hurt their guy. I can still remember when Farakhan had a live satalite linkup with Khadaffi and Khadaffi announced to his audience that if they wanted to try to overthrow the American Government that he would be happy to supply the weapons to do it. But this probably didnt happen either after all a completely saintly person named Obama didnt say it happened. and by the way, you are right Obama does have to answer to people....people like George Soros and Moveon.org. And we know what rational thinkers they both are....

[rholland]

2 MICHELLES, 2 AMERICAS SHAME vs. PRIDE

By Michelle Malkin

Like Michelle Obama, I am a "woman of color." Like Michelle Obama, I am a working mother of two young children. Like Michelle Obama, I am a member of the 13th generation of Americans born since the founding of our great nation.

Unlike Michelle Obama, I can't keep track of the number of times I've been proud - really proud - of my country since I was born and privileged to live in it.

At a speech in Milwaukee this week on behalf of her husband's Democratic presidential campaign, Mrs. Obama remarked, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

Mrs. Obama's statement was met with warm applause from other Barack supporters who have apparently also been devoid of pride in their country for their adult lifetimes. Or maybe it was just a Pavlovian response to the word "change." What a sad, empty, narcissistic, ungrateful, unthinking lot.

I'm just seven years younger than Mrs. Obama. We've grown up and lived in the same era. And yet, her self-absorbed attitude is completely foreign to me. What planet is she living on? Since when was now the only time the American people have ever been "hungry for change"? Michelle, ma belle, Barack is not the center of the universe. Newsflash: The Obamas did not invent "change" any more than Hillary invented "leadership" or John McCain invented "straight talk."

We were both adults when the Berlin Wall fell, Michelle. That was earth-shattering change.

We've lived through two decades' worth of peaceful, if contentious, election cycles under the rule of law, which have brought about "change" and upheaval, both good and bad.

We were adults through several launches of the space shuttle, in case you were snoozing. And as adults, we've witnessed and benefited from dizzyingly rapid advances in technology, communications, science, and medicine pioneered by American entrepreneurs who yearned to change the world and succeeded. You want "change?" Go ask the patients whose lives have been improved and extended by American pharmaceutical companies that have flourished under the best economic system in the world.

If American ingenuity, a robust constitutional republic, and the fall of communism don't do it for you, hon, then how about American heroism and sacrifice?

How about every Memorial Day? Every Veterans Day? Every Independence Day? Every Medal of Honor ceremony? Has she never attended a welcome-home ceremony for the troops?

For me, there's the thrill of the Blue Angels roaring over cloudless skies. And the somber awe felt amid the hallowed waters that surround the sunken U.S.S. Arizona at the Pearl Harbor memorial.

Every naturalization ceremony I've attended, where hundreds of new Americans raised their hands to swear an oath of allegiance to this land of liberty, has been a moment of pride for me. So have the awesome displays of American compassion at home and around the world. When millions of Americans rallied to help victims of the 2004 tsunami in Southeast Asia - including members of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group that sped from Hong Kong to assist survivors - my heart filled with pride. It did again when the citizens of Houston opened their arms to Hurricane Katrina victims and folks across the country rushed to their churches, and Salvation Army and Red Cross offices to volunteer.

How about American resilience? Does that not make you proud? Only a heart of stone could be unmoved by the strength, valor, and determination displayed in New York, Washington, D.C., and Shanksville, Pa., on September 11, 2001.

I believe it was Michael Kinsley who quipped that a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth. In this case, it's what happens when an elite Democratic politician's wife says what a significant portion of the party's base really believes to be the truth: America is more a source of shame than pride.

Michelle Obama has achieved enormous professional success, political influence, and personal acclaim in America. Ivy League-educated, she's been lauded by Essence magazine as one of the 25 World's Most Inspiring Women; by Vanity Fair as one of the ten World's Best-Dressed Women; and named one of "The Harvard 100" most influential alumni. She has had an amazingly blessed life. But you wouldn't know it from her campaign rhetoric and her griping about her and her husband's student loans.

For years, we've heard liberals get offended at any challenge to their patriotism. And so they are again aggrieved and rising to explain away Mrs. Obama's remarks.

Lady Michelle and her defenders protest too much.

- Michelle Malkin is author of Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild.

[bmbroker]

Working in mortgages, I know the corrossive effects of bureaucracy and thus I am turned off by any plan that creates an added layer.

rholland, I work in the mortgage industry also. The proposed bailout plans scare hell out of me. Aready way too much government in the industry.

[chunko]

Originally Posted by rholland

You should have said, The main stream liberal media says, evidence suggests that there was an agenda for these two Texas oil men that some peole do not wish to acknowledge.
Then you would have been correct.

Nah, my mainstream wallet says that.

Oil Man in office. Invade Oil Producing Country on really sketchy evidence, and minimal links to terror, Price of Oil Sky Rockets. Oil Companies and Halliburton see record profits.

I like to follow the money. And the FACT that this war has made both Bush and Cheney much more wealthy, does not sit well with me. Especially given the shakey foundation on which this war was waged.

[chunko]

Originally Posted by rholland

2 MICHELLES, 2 AMERICAS SHAME vs. PRIDE

By Michelle Malkin

- Michelle Malkin is author of Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild.

Ehh, after 8 years of republicans in power the democrats say the country is going to hell in a handbasket.

and the next time democrats are in power for 8 years, the republicans say the country is going to hell in a handbasket...who cares?

Just party rhetoric...nothing of substance. She's proud of her husband and think he's god's gift to America and that america was just pooh pooh before he got involved...ehh my girlfriend think's I'm pretty cool too...crazy huh. That's how chicks are with the men they love.

[chunko]

Originally Posted by Tmaxxattack

You have a good point. Creating a foundation for long term middle east peace to develop and spread through the establishment of a free democratic nation, with people free of the threat of a murderous dictator whose sole existance relied on middle east instability, seemed like a pretty big task but it looks like it may be possible with patience and perseverance..

Yup, kill enough thousands of Iraqi's and we will have peace and have saved them from Saddam who killed thousands of Iraqis.

I'd say after we've killed about 100,000...we might have some peace...wait..by some estimates we're already there. Iraq is not like Germany or Japan. I see no happy ending in their future. They are a divided country and we're (through military force, not democracy) the only thing holding them together...and before us, it was a cruel dictator...and after us...it will be civil war...and the winners will "elect" a cruel dictator to beat down the other resisting parties.