does not deserve to be president

[rholland]

1992 was the first time I really followed an election and I was actually leaning toward Clinton, George H Bush’s, “read my lips, no new taxes”, had done it for me with him.

I was watching two guys talking politics, on TV, about how the big media had taken sides with Clinton. He said to prove this to yourself, watch the nightly news and pay attention to the stories about Clinton and Bush and how they end them. No matter what the story about Clinton was, the reporter ended it with something positive, good and with GH Bush, no matter what the story was, they ended it with a negative, something bad.
I watched the news every night, ABC, CBS and NBC, and kelp a record, and that is exactly what they did.

This was no accident, this was planned and in collusion.

For further proof, towards the end of the campaign, the big three went with a story about G H Bush, that he may have had an affair with one of his secretaries, no proof, just ran the story for days.

At the same time, two reporters had camped out in the hall at a hotel where Clinton was staying, they had gotten there around midnight, and at four in the morning, a 24 year old reporter-ette , came out of his room.
The heads of the big 3 got together and decided to withhold this information from the voters, for fear of having a negative effect on the election.

After the election was over, and no one cared, it was brought out that the story about G H Bush was based on the fact that a Hotel had messed up and book one of the female secretaries into a room on the same floor in the hotel were G H Bush was staying.

They, ABC, CBS and NBC, made up a false story about Bush and covered up a true story about Clinton.

I said all of that to say this,
Don’t believe anything you hear from the main stream media between now and the election without absolute proof, they have been known to use a modern computer with Office software, to try and forge a forty year old document, to try and get their man in office.

Do your homework, don’t believe anything just because it is on TV, Radio or the Internet, make up your own mind up, and vote for the one that you feel the most comfortable with.

That’s the great American way.

[radiokid]

I have an all too vivid memory of the Enron Texans who rode into California in 2001 and extorted 20 billion out of the state treasury to satisfy their greed lust.

Don't throw stones Texans or we will cut off your lettuce supply.

No tofu for you!!!!!!!!!

[helomech]

Originally Posted by radiokid

I have an all too vivid memory of the Enron Texans who rode into California in 2001 and extorted 20 billion out of the state treasury to satisfy their greed lust.

Don't throw stones Texans or we will cut off your lettuce supply.

No tofu for you!!!!!!!!!

Oh no don't cut off the tofu.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by helomech

Oh no don't cut off the tofu.

Is that something like mudbugs? Never caught a tofu but heck, I would boil em good, I don't want em blinking at me.

[TallTexan]

I am always amazed when a liberal politition can stand up and say he is going to give billions of dollars to those who don't have a lot of money, short for they don't work, and his supporters defend him even though they know the government don't have a dime. That money is comming out of the pockets of the folks who work for a living. The liberal skank will tell you he is going to get it from the rich. The rich are a very small percentage and even if you tax the hell out of them, you cannot get the type of money he is talking about. The big money is in the middle class workers. So if you get Hussein like some want , pucker up boys cause you are in for a plucking.

[chunko]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

I am always amazed when a liberal politition can stand up and say he is going to give billions of dollars to those who don't have a lot of money, short for they don't work, and his supporters defend him even though they know the government don't have a dime. That money is comming out of the pockets of the folks who work for a living. The liberal skank will tell you he is going to get it from the rich. The rich are a very small percentage and even if you tax the hell out of them, you cannot get the type of money he is talking about. The big money is in the middle class workers. So if you get Hussein like some want , pucker up boys cause you are in for a plucking.

Okay, you're just spouting off opinion after opinion with basically 0 supporting evidence... it's not making for an interesting discussion. The big money is the rich. The middle class has more people...but the wealth is all among the really rich.

Top 1% have 20% of the wealth.
Top 5% have 40% of the wealth. The middle accounts for squat.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Okay, you're just spouting off opinion after opinion with basically 0 supporting evidence... it's not making for an interesting discussion. The big money is the rich. The middle class has more people...but the wealth is all among the really rich.

Top 1% have 20% of the wealth.
Top 5% have 40% of the wealth. The middle accounts for squat.

Where is your proof for those numbers. That is Obamas numbers with no backup. If you quote real percentages, show the calcs on how you got there or at least tell us the date you pulled it fron the New York Times.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

I am always amazed when a liberal politition can stand up and say he is going to give billions of dollars to those who don't have a lot of money, short for they don't work, and his supporters defend him even though they know the government don't have a dime. That money is comming out of the pockets of the folks who work for a living. The liberal skank will tell you he is going to get it from the rich. The rich are a very small percentage and even if you tax the hell out of them, you cannot get the type of money he is talking about. The big money is in the middle class workers. So if you get Hussein like some want , pucker up boys cause you are in for a plucking.

If my taxes go up much, then I will take that job offer overseas. I will get out of all income taxes and social security payments.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by helomech

If my taxes go up much, then I will take that job offer overseas. I will get out of all income taxes and social security payments.

Helo, Let me tell you the real facts about taxes. The top 1% of wage earners today pay 32% of ALL income taxes. The top 5% of wage earners pay 51.4% of ALL income taxes. The top 10% of wage earners pay 63.5% of ALL income taxes. The top 20% of wage earners pay 78% of all income taxes. That means that 80% of all wage earners today only pay 20% of all income taxes that go to the government. Of those 20%, many of them pay nothing. Now Hussein says that the ''rich'' need to pay more. The onlt thing to do now is to let the top 20% just pay every thing. That seems to be the only way to shut the socialists up.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Where is your proof for those numbers. That is Obamas numbers with no backup. If you quote real percentages, show the calcs on how you got there or at least tell us the date you pulled it fron the New York Times.

http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/fac...ome&wealth.htm
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm20...iewswolff.html

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/fac...ome&wealth.htm
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html
http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm20...iewswolff.html

Different subject. This is based on wealth. A lot of farmers hold millions of dollars of land but their income is only average because they grow crops and after they pay the bills, the rest is income. The wealthy is the same way. When they make income off that wealth, they pay taxes. And as noted in above post, the top 20% of Americans is paying 80 % of all income taxes. With Hussein the top 20% will pay all the income taxes and the other 80% can ride for free. Just what our founders had in mind. A socialist system just like ma Russia. We seen that system work, didn't we.

[chunko]

Ask the really rich how much they pay in taxes...if you're able to get an honest answer it would go something like this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062700097.html

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Ask the really rich how much they pay in taxes...if you're able to get an honest answer it would go something like this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062700097.html

Great response. You show me a article about Buffet, a Hillary supporter, who is trying to get Hill elected. This guy just proved my point. The numbers are the numbers. You cannot dispute the fact that 20% of wage earners pay 80% of all taxes. Think about that. When you raise taxes on the ''rich'' again, they will pay 90-100% of taxes. Is that what you think is fair? If the U.S. takes in 3 trillion in taxes, the top 20% pay 2.4 trillion and the other 80% pay 600 billion. Drop the liberal line and consider how you would feel to go out to eat with your buddies and every time you had to pay $80 of a hundred dollar tab. Your buddies tell you that you have more money that them so you must pay. I bet you would tell some one to kiss your back side.
Like I say, if the libs are going to be happy, the top 20% will just put up another 600 billion and the rest of the country can just sit back and pay nothing. Only a socialist could agree with that.

[rholland]

Originally Posted by radiokid

I have an all too vivid memory of the Enron Texans who rode into California in 2001 and extorted 20 billion out of the state treasury to satisfy their greed lust.

Don't throw stones Texans or we will cut off your lettuce supply.

No tofu for you!!!!!!!!!

If Calif had had a energy plan, allowed drilling and oil and gas production, built more electric generation, had longe range contracts for oil and gas, instead of buying on the spot market, then those greedy Texans, might not have been able to con Calif like they did

[TallTexan]

When you google ''socialists'', you basically get the democratic party. You get links to congressional socialists party where many members of congress are admitted socialists. They all promote the redistributing of wealth. Getting the so called rich to pay all taxes is the first step. The next will to pass laws that in a corporation, the president can only make so much money and the workers makes very close to what he makes. Those doctors can no longer make all that money and will have to work for truck driver wages. The intent is to finally give government total control of everything and take the power from the people. The people then are totaly reliant on the government. I am surprised to see how many people are ready to give all power to a few in Washington. Talk to a Russian, he will tell you all about socialism.