does not deserve to be president

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Sorry Ad, I did not know you were so easily offended. For about 70 or so pages, I have went along with your rants about Christians. You have called Christians crazy, beliving in an imaginary friend in the sky and many others that I won't mention but is easily searched. You defend the gay way but seem to get offended if , in your own mind, someone is calling you gay. Why? Would you be ashamed being gay? My point, I never got mad at you when you called me a christian, using your many ignorant terms, because I am a christian and proud of it. Call me pro military, again proud, anti abortion, proud again, I am proud of what I am and what I support and stand for.

Maybe you should decide if you support gay rights for real or are you afraid of someone thinking you are one. Based on your previous posts, I would think you would be ok either way. Hmmmm. By the way, I am kind of proud to be a redneck too.!

While AAD has stated his opinion of Christianity-debating it with you and others. He has never called you a Christian in a derogatory manner. The best you can state is that he has called you a redneck.

You are calling him gay and using it in a derogatory manner simply because he would support gay rights-instead of debating gay rights with him.

When you state you are a Christian, just what part of being a Christian exactly are you? You seem to pick and choose pieces within it, demonstrating a remarkable lack of tolerance for anything outside of your own realm of understanding. Which verse speaks of that being a value?

Thou Shalt Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself

You are a great example that is the dogma of being Christian...or most religions for that matter that put themselves above everyone else and are quick to look down upon those who believe differently.

In my search to find positive representatives of the various religions, I find them uncommonly rare indeed but hope that there are more lurking out there who quietly go about their lives and live the way the is open to all.

You're just plain angry at the world and look to scapegoat everyone and everything that may actually help you see things differently. God's going to give you a free pass into Heaven because you believe in him-not because you are good at practicing Christianity...


- Voltaire (18th Century)

O! Thou God of all beings, of all worlds, and of all times,
We pray, that the little differences in our clothes,
in our inadequate languages,
in our ridiculous customs,
in our imperfect laws,
in our illogical opinions,
in our ranks and conditions which
are so disproportionately important to us
and so meaningless to you,
that these small variations
that distinguish those atoms that we call men,
one from another,
may not be signals of hatred and persecution

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by Arachnid

Rezko was convicted on 16 counts of corruption today, wonder how that is going to affect the race?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,2256058.story

Interested in your opinion on this one...

"It surprised me that late in the game he [Obama] continued to take contributions from somebody who was under a rather dark cloud in the state," said Cynthia Canary of the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform, a group that has worked closely with Obama and supported his legislative efforts."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4111483

37L1 I believe has stated that so far, Obama has been given a free pass on this.

I can't figure out why Illinois legislators didn't make this an issue. Being friends is one thing-doing what looks like underhanded business is another.

It won't come up in the debates but will get air time in negative ads that eventually will desensitize people to the issue.

Is he the next "teflon Don?"

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Your family tree have many branches?

Now you are in my trees! Have you no shame , AD?

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Now you are in my trees! Have you no shame , AD?

That's a good one props

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

While AAD has stated his opinion of Christianity-debating it with you and others. He has never called you a Christian in a derogatory manner. The best you can state is that he has called you a redneck.

You are calling him gay and using it in a derogatory manner simply because he would support gay rights-instead of debating gay rights with him.

When you state you are a Christian, just what part of being a Christian exactly are you? You seem to pick and choose pieces within it, demonstrating a remarkable lack of tolerance for anything outside of your own realm of understanding. Which verse speaks of that being a value?

Thou Shalt Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself

You are a great example that is the dogma of being Christian...or most religions for that matter that put themselves above everyone else and are quick to look down upon those who believe differently.

In my search to find positive representatives of the various religions, I find them uncommonly rare indeed but hope that there are more lurking out there who quietly go about their lives and live the way the is open to all.

You're just plain angry at the world and look to scapegoat everyone and everything that may actually help you see things differently. God's going to give you a free pass into Heaven because you believe in him-not because you are good at practicing Christianity...


- Voltaire (18th Century)

O! Thou God of all beings, of all worlds, and of all times,
We pray, that the little differences in our clothes,
in our inadequate languages,
in our ridiculous customs,
in our imperfect laws,
in our illogical opinions,
in our ranks and conditions which
are so disproportionately important to us
and so meaningless to you,
that these small variations
that distinguish those atoms that we call men,
one from another,
may not be signals of hatred and persecution

Saying AD never said derogatory remarks is like saying the holocost never happened. Take a read sometime. Could be what he said is not derogatory to you, which I suspect is the truth. I also need no lecture from athiests on what a Christian is. Where were you when all the hate was thrown out against Christians. You were part of it, remember? By the way, ain't no free passes to heaven. Gotta ask for one.

[37L1]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

McCain wants to have a series of debates with Obama. That should be amusing.

http://humanrightsamerica.wordpress....e-a-nightmare/

More entertaining and amusing will be the debate between Obama and Ahmadinejad.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Saying AD never said derogatory remarks is like saying the holocost never happened. Take a read sometime. Could be what he said is not derogatory to you, which I suspect is the truth. I also need no lecture from athiests on what a Christian is. Where were you when all the hate was thrown out against Christians. You were part of it, remember? By the way, ain't no free passes to heaven. Gotta ask for one.

You clearly need reading comprehension.

I stated that AAD hasn't called you out specifically regarding being Christian. He has clearly stated what he thinks of religions including Christians.

There's a difference.

I will go find an atheist and let him/her know that you're not interested in hearing from them.

I attend a non denominational church and have stated so several times. Again, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit...

And while we're on the topic of being there, this forum thread is how long? I ask because a lot of opinions have been expressed and if one doesn't immediately respond in rebuke of a post, they must clearly agree with it-kind of like people believing Obama must believe all the stuff Rev. Wright states.

and isn't Rev. Wright Christian?

Wait a minute, I'm on to something.

You are a Christian.
Rev. Wright is a Christian.
All reverands preach.
You must like believe what Rev. Wright preaches.

Gee, I finally found out why you hate Americans so...maybe if you renounce Christianity we can overlook your errant past...

[chunko]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Saying AD never said derogatory remarks is like saying the holocost never happened. Take a read sometime. Could be what he said is not derogatory to you, which I suspect is the truth. I also need no lecture from athiests on what a Christian is. Where were you when all the hate was thrown out against Christians. You were part of it, remember? By the way, ain't no free passes to heaven. Gotta ask for one.

I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.--Stephen F. Roberts

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

You clearly need reading comprehension.

I stated that AAD hasn't called you out specifically regarding being Christian. He has clearly stated what he thinks of religions including Christians.

There's a difference.

I will go find an atheist and let him/her know that you're not interested in hearing from them.

I attend a non denominational church and have stated so several times. Again, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit...

And while we're on the topic of being there, this forum thread is how long? I ask because a lot of opinions have been expressed and if one doesn't immediately respond in rebuke of a post, they must clearly agree with it-kind of like people believing Obama must believe all the stuff Rev. Wright states.

and isn't Rev. Wright Christian?

Wait a minute, I'm on to something.

You are a Christian.
Rev. Wright is a Christian.
All reverands preach.
You must like believe what Rev. Wright preaches.

Gee, I finally found out why you hate Americans so...maybe if you renounce Christianity we can overlook your errant past...

A lot of folks claim to be Christian. A lot of folks claim to go to church. Christians have certain beliefs, which are all tangled up in this political mess we are in. When we say homosexuality is wrong, you say we are hateful and un-christian. When we don't like abortion, aagain we are haters. In my world, we call it morals. You have your own, and I have mine. I can assure you, killing babies and homosexuals is not supported by most of Christianity. Christians cannot spout our disagreement with these things without the politically correct of the world screaming hate. Your view of the world is if it feels good, do it. My opinion, Christianity is not your strong suit. Sounds like Obamas church could easily be your home away from home. Kronos Wright. Did you say you are a Christian?

[MuskyHunter]

Going away from Christianity and back to the presidency, lets look at Obama's accomplishments:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...en&sitesearch=

[helomech]

Originally Posted by matthews

I couldn't agree with you more, dude. All homosexual bans (marriage, military, etc.), Sunday alcohol sales, censorship, etc etc etc.

Woo hoo, we agree on something. I don't like the government in any of my personal business.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by Overide

Houston is in Texas. Probably didn't mean Dallas or Houston, but he said Texas, and didn't specify.

No, he said cut and shoot Texas, which is a town in Texas. B

[bthelton]

I just seen that Mrs. Clinton is dropping out. It was on headline news, so does that mean its true? If soooooo, WOOOOO FRIGGIN HOOOOO!!!!!!

[helomech]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Obama isn't the guy who supports the right to buy an assault rifle and hand it over to kids to play with on their birthdays because it is their heritage. At night, he has to file down his horns lest people realize he's the devil.

.

See what I mean, this is already illegal.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Yep, debating allows me to have my own values tested and when I get information that supports a different attitude, I try to incorporate it.

I have been wrong more times than right so far in my life but I also have never allowed myself to be so blinded to other possibilities that I can't change my way of thinking...

1. Pro death penalty.
2. Pro choice in situations in which the mother is at risk, by rape, or where the fetus has no chance of survival or quality of life. If we find an example of it being used as a contraceptive, then the individual should be required to pay for and remain on the pills with counseling until such time as they can control their urges. If they can’t take care of the child, they shouldn’t be allowed to have them.
3. Choose an official language-we need a common language in this day and age.
4. Provide assistance to teach languages to better communicate with our diverse population.
5. If you’re on a government subsidy, you can pay it back via community service, direct agreed monetary amount, or if the situation is not of your own doing and requires permanent assistance in order to function in society, then you get a free pass. Hand up, not hand out. “Give us your tired and poor…” should not be construed to be a permanent condition.
6. All social programs are reviewed for abuse and abolished if they cannot be managed. Let’s reduce entitlements.
7. Use our military as military-no world police. If we are called to defend our nation, it is unrestricted. If we are called to help a country, it is unrestricted. Let our enemies fear us, not find ways to take potshots at us.
8. Shut down the borders and increase legal immigration. This is not the same country as it was in the 1800’s and the impact of illegals is much more severe.
9. Develop an economic and energy policy that increases our ability to be self- sufficient and not seek short term gains at the expense of long term needs. If you move your company out of the US, you do not enjoy the benefits of being here.
10. Separate church and religion but allow the practice to occur to the level that allows business to function. If you’re Muslim, pray 5x a day as long as you do your job. If you’re Christian, have a Christmas tree in your office. If you have a religious holiday not on the government list, be allowed to observe it in a planned manner to minimize disruption. Do not be so sensitive that a religious expression is meant as anything else than sincerely given. If someone starts preaching religion on government time, they get their chatckis taken away until they learn better.
11. Clear the prisons out. You’re either learning to become responsible citizens or you’re in line for the chair. Prison shouldn’t teach you to be a better criminal. It is not a hostel for hostiles. If you’re illegal and you commit a felony, you are remanded to your country of origin. Come back and get caught-the chair.
12. Pro-gun in as much as you should take a license and maintain it just like a driver’s license. Once passed, Uzi’s for all. Kill someone with it not in self-defense and you should be in line for the chair…shoot someone accidentally and you get the privilege taken away forever and whatever jail time fits being stupid…
13. Require a plan to balance the budget and reduce national debt.
14. Don't care if you're gay/lesbian and whether or not it's called a marriage or civil union. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage Companies should be able to define benefits not the government. However the government should also practice non-discriminatory recognition of gays.
15. Reform EEO. It is not doing what it is intended to do and more often, is poorly implemented and understood.



Find me a candidate who believes this and I will vote for him/her.

I think I agree with you on everything except gun license. Wow, I am shocked.