McCain vs Obama

[adavis99]

Well it looks like these are going to be the nominees so I figured I'd start a thread for the upcoming elections.

I read something today, that, I really hope is true. It might just be enough to make me vote for McCain regardless of all other issues.

As a lawyer might say (OK, I am one), I have no personal; knowledge of whether John or Cindy McCain voted for George W. Bush in the 2000 election. However, now that that has been called into question by Arianna Huffington (who says no) and Huffington's truthfulness has in turn been questioned by the McCain campaign (although not yet by the McCains), I can offer the following anecdote as admissible hearsay shedding a little light on the subject:

Over the Fourth of July weekend of 1999, I had the good fortune to accompany my then fiancée (and now happily my wife) to the McCain vacation home in Sedona where she was interviewing them for a Home and Garden Television show. The interview itself was entirely apolitical, focusing on fabrics and furnishing in their lovely Oak Creek abode, topics about which I do recall the senator was less than comfortable discussing.

Always the goods hosts, the McCain's also invited us to spend the day with them, including for barbeque, a favorite of John's. And as McCain flipped burgers, I could not help but ask his views about then candidate George W. Bush.

"He's as dumb as a stump" McCain offered. We then went on to discuss other matters (including Vietnam) but that quote remains seared in my memory.

So how the McCain's actually voted that November is between them and their voting booth. But if John McCain did end up voting for Bush, then by his own admission he voted for a stump.

Linked here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-mey..._b_101069.html

Your thoughts? Let the mudslinging begin!!!

[rholland]

Every election year, the liberal elitist make the charge that the Republican candidate is dumb, and then they turn around and have a candidate that is considerably worst

Al Meyerhoff is a left liberal activist environmentalist lawyer. Unless he has a recording, this is about the same as CBS's forged documents. Enough said.

Bio: Albert Meyerhoff has practiced for more than 30 years in labor, civil rights and environmental law. After graduating from Cornell Law School in 1972, he joined California Rural Legal Assistance representing farm workers and the rural poor. In 1981, Mr. Meyerhoff joined the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), a national environmental organization, as Director of their Public Health Program. During his 17 years with NRDC, Mr. Meyerhoff testified more than 50 times before the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives. Mr. Meyerhoff has authored numerous articles for scholarly and general publications, including the Stanford Law Review, EPA Journal, Environmental Law Quarterly, The New York Times, The Washington Post and Los Angeles Times. Since joining Coughlin, Stoia, Geller, Rudman and Robbins LLP , a class action firm, in 1998, Mr. Meyerhoff has been lead counsel in several labor and environmental cases, including UNITE v. The Gap, contesting the sale of garments manufactured under sweatshop conditions in the Commonwealth of the Mariana Islands, and Public Citizen v. US DOT, challenging cross border trucking from Mexico in violation of U.S. environmental laws. Until recently when his term expired, Mr. Meyerhoff served on the Sierra Club Board of Trustees. In 2006, he was selected as Trial Lawyer of the Year by Trial Lawyers for Public Justice and received lifetime achievement awards from

[HPDTITAN]

Obama is not a true American Patriot, he wont win...I hope!!!

[dhiggin]

If Obama wins we as americans have givin up!! He is one piece of work i'll tell ya . you are exactly right HPDTITAN he is not a true American patriot!!!!

[walleeme]

Picture this:
Barack Obama, commander in chief.













The bathroom is down the hall on the right.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by walleeme

Picture this:
Barack Obama, commander in chief.













The bathroom is down the hall on the right.

The scary part is he has a good chance of winning. I can't believe this crap.

[redneckpapa1996]

If he does win he will be the same piece of schit as Bush in 4-8 years !!!
Way to go demos !!!

[20TexasTitan08]

he does not have a good chance of winning...he will win He speeks so smoothly much like hittler spoke and he can sway people with words much like hitler. Seeing any connections? He will win and we are screwed because he is a horrible economist, awful commander in cheif, and un patriotic

[20TexasTitan08]

hey, but america seems to love him so hopefully people will feel secure with him and the american people will hold the stock market and the economy up by consuming in good feeling??? maybe? hopefully!!

[tholmes]

I'll interject one thought and leave it alone after that. This country is not ready for a woman to be president or a black person to be. Nothing sexist or racist about it. I firmly believe we will eventually have a black and/or female president in our life times, but not this go 'round. Furthermore, it really doesn't matter who you vote for, you are getting a democrat and liberal anyways.

That's it, not getting any more involved than this.

[mtofell]

The best chance the right has to get a candidate elected is to have a left leaning righty. There's A LOT of people upset about the Bush administration and I don't think there's anyway another hard line right guy like bush would have a prayer.

So, pick your poison.... I'm starting to think I'd vote for Homer Simpson if he could get the price of gas back down. That's got to be a huge issue this election season.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by mtofell

The best chance the right has to get a candidate elected is to have a left leaning righty. There's A LOT of people upset about the Bush administration and I don't think there's anyway another hard line right guy like bush would have a prayer.

So, pick your poison.... I'm starting to think I'd vote for Homer Simpson if he could get the price of gas back down. That's got to be a huge issue this election season.

Tell me just how can the President change the price of fuel?

[jljue]

How in the world did we ever get to having the candidates that we have for the last few elections? I haven't been voting all that long due to age, but it seems as if the few elections that I could vote I had to pick the one for my party, not because I thought that person was good, but rather than the opposite party's candidate wasn't any better. Instead of elections being exciting, lately I've been getting more depressed during election time. This sucks!

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by helomech

Tell me just how can the President change the price of fuel?

McCain believes he can-are you saying he's lying (gasp)

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by jljue

How in the world did we ever get to having the candidates that we have for the last few elections? I haven't been voting all that long due to age, but it seems as if the few elections that I could vote I had to pick the one for my party, not because I thought that person was good, but rather than the opposite party's candidate wasn't any better. Instead of elections being exciting, lately I've been getting more depressed during election time. This sucks!

It would be nice to pick a candidate based upon issues but now the race for the Presidency also includes those complex issues that are orchestrated by interest groups and no one person in the Presidency can manage.

I live McCain's strategy on egressing out of Iraq but would rather support Obama or Clinton on environmental issues...