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Old 05-21-2008, 10:14 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Statistics would state that 80% of the United States is white so 8 out of 10 people breaking into his house would be white.

I do not know if they keep statistics on offenders by their names! My mom's name is Juanita and she's as white as they come so I'll assume that when you refer to Pedro, I take it to mean that you also assume that he could be white.

Care to make a bet that 80% of the people breaking into houses isn't white? Following that logic, then 80% of the people in jail would be white. Come on Kronos, your arguments are usually a lot better than this.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:15 AM   #137 (permalink)
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If McCain keeps the US in Iraq for another 100 years, everybody will be broke so you won't have to worry about who gets more welfare.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=4418698
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:29 AM   #138 (permalink)
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If McCain keeps the US in Iraq for another 100 years, everybody will be broke so you won't have to worry about who gets more welfare.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=4418698
I wish you guys would come up with some new propaganda. I have been hearing the same thing for the last 45 years. Saw your baby killer signs in the 60's, saw your signs calling returning GI's murderers. Heard your screams of hate as I was returning home, but I just looked at the wormy looking, nerd looking and coward smelling folks this was comming from and quickly decided we are better off if they don't join the Army. Never saw a protester in Nam. Saw a few dead ones with signs hanging around their neck saying ''courtesy of the 82'nd airborne''.
There will always be conflicts, there will always be those who refuse to fight, will be those who think the war is just wrong. So, what else is new.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:36 AM   #139 (permalink)
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If McCain keeps the US in Iraq for another 100 years, everybody will be broke so you won't have to worry about who gets more welfare.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=4418698

Cool, at least we won't have any on welfare. If that is the only way to get them off the system than I am all for it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:37 AM   #140 (permalink)
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This is false. In the 1960s, a study found that most welfare recipients are white. At the time, however, near 90% of the population was white. At all times, blacks were more likely than whites to receive welfare, but when the white population was nearly 90% white, obviously whites made up a majority of welfare recipients.

Today, that is not true anymore. In part because welfare was vastly expanded to include money for bastard children (WIC), housing projects, etc. But it is also due to the white population dropping to only about 65% of all Americans.

Whites still receive more Social Security (I guess we should kill whitey, how dare he live so long!), but minorities receive more of every other form of government welfare. And let’s not forget that whites are the ones who pay over 90% of all taxes collected by the government. Asians pay their fair share. Blacks and Latinos (especially the illegals) pay very little because our tax system is so “progressive” [meaning the more you make, the higher your tax rate will be]. So therefore, whites do not take from the government. Poor whites take from other whites. Blacks, meanwhile, take predominantly from the “whitey” they hate so much.

Finally, whites rarely stay on welfare for a long time. In the ghetto, almost everyone receives lifetime welfare in one form or another. How many whites do you know who not only never had a job, but don’t even have a single friend or relative with a job? I don’t know any.

Well said, but I don't see social security as a wellfare. You are only supposed to draw from it if you put into it. I wish they would get rid of social security, or at least give you the option to not be in it.
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I wish they would get rid of social security
Dubya doesn't have it funded sufficiently to cover benefits to your generation, so I think you will get your wish.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:54 AM   #142 (permalink)
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You are only supposed to draw from it if you put into it.
Who said this?
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I wish you guys would come up with some new propaganda. I have been hearing the same thing for the last 45 years. Saw your baby killer signs in the 60's, saw your signs calling returning GI's murderers. Heard your screams of hate as I was returning home, but I just looked at the wormy looking, nerd looking and coward smelling folks this was comming from and quickly decided we are better off if they don't join the Army. Never saw a protester in Nam. Saw a few dead ones with signs hanging around their neck saying ''courtesy of the 82'nd airborne''.
There will always be conflicts, there will always be those who refuse to fight, will be those who think the war is just wrong. So, what else is new.
Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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Dubya doesn't have it funded sufficiently to cover benefits to your generation, so I think you will get your wish.
Dubya does not fund SS. Dubya cannot sign a check. Congress will be the ones who steal my SS money, just like they are doing now. Dubya is just like me, just stands in amazement and watch congress take all the SS receipts go into the general fund and be spent on those in ''programs''. Some one got to support the democratic voters.
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Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
My thoughts exactly! Some in my American Legion post went back to Viet Nam to relive some old memories. When they came back, we who did not want to make the trip, asked how it went. The first thing out of their mouth was the horrors that took place after we pulled out. They heard stories of the mass murders, children were slaughtered like animals because of the way they looked, part American. American supporters were rounded up and never seen again. Some vets with missing limbs and mangled bodies, said they would have went back again to stop the slaughter. These are the ones saying we should never leave Iraq. You can question the reason for the war, but now we have to finish it. No more slaughtered children. I know there are some who just don't care, they want out now. Probably the same who like abortions, I don't care whose fault it is, just end it. I guess some can do it and go home and sleep at night. I just can't do that.
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Who said this?

That is the way it was intended to work. Your monthly amount is based on the average amount you put in the last 5 years I think.
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Dubya doesn't have it funded sufficiently to cover benefits to your generation, so I think you will get your wish.

No my wish is to not put in it. That and the income tax is one of the reasons I am looking in to an over seas job. I will get to keep all my income.
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That is the way it was intended to work. Your monthly amount is based on the average amount you put in the last 5 years I think.

That really doesn't answer my question concerning "who".

Anyway, the very first person to receive a monthly Social Security check, Ida May Fuller, received over $22,000 in payments during her lifetime even though she paid only $24.75 into the system.
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That really doesn't answer my question concerning "who".

Anyway, the very first person to receive a monthly Social Security check, Ida May Fuller, received over $22,000 in payments during her lifetime even though she paid only $24.75 into the system.
That is true. Remember , a lot of folks pay into the system and die early, never to get any of the money they paid in. I don't know the percentage of people that die between the ages of 20 and 65 but I am sure it is substancial. There was also going to be a lot of interest on our money but we know what happened to our money. More ''programs''.
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That really doesn't answer my question concerning "who".

Anyway, the very first person to receive a monthly Social Security check, Ida May Fuller, received over $22,000 in payments during her lifetime even though she paid only $24.75 into the system.
Right here.

http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dqualify2.htm

http://www.ssa.gov/dibplan/dqualify.htm
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