Classic George W

[bestatchess]

Originally Posted by Bayou Titan

I disagree with you putting Obama on the ethical plane with Dubya. Dubya has a criminal record.

I dunno, 'bama admits to prior pot & coke use, whereas Dubya can't remember, didn't inhale, won't say or something like that.

[bestatchess]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Still cannot understand your guy is running against McCain. Your guy lost against Bush 4 years ago and now Obama has to beat McCain. I don't blame you for talking about Bush cause Obama has many problems. I just saw a poll that said only 47% of democrats thinks he is honest. Quite a number.

Hey, I'm with McCain, 100 years in Iraq - the 51st state. Let's keep blowing it up and paying Halliburton to rebuild it.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

I dunno, 'bama admits to prior pot & coke use, whereas Dubya can't remember, didn't inhale, won't say or something like that.

I don't know what all they smoke in those muslim get togethers that Obama attends. When Hillary and Obama get through beating each other over the head, a lot more info on Obama will come out. Need to wait until he cannot be thrown out by super delagates. This guy has a history and a lot of folks are looking into it.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

Hey, I'm with McCain, 100 years in Iraq - the 51st state. Let's keep blowing it up and paying Halliburton to rebuild it.

Don't worry, they won't make you go. Got a bunch of rednecks that will carry your load.

[Bayou Titan]

Originally Posted by bestatchess

I dunno, 'bama admits to prior pot & coke use, whereas Dubya can't remember..........

I don't think it is fair for Dubya to use

his dementia

as an excuse.

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Public service jobs I have no problem. Government program jobs which I consider a lot of them worthless, is another story. You might read the pros and cons of some of those so called ''programs''. Healthy folks in programs drawing money for ''disabilities'', a lot of them is depression. I get depressed watching them fat suckers in front of me buying t-bone steaks and ice cream and paying with the lone star card. Follow a couple of them out to their car and see the new license plates on their new car. No, most programs are crooked at best. My program is pretty simple . If you are old and unable to work, they get plenty of help. Kids need help, load em up. Folks with real disabilities, help em. Either we find a way to fix the system or shut them all down and start over. We are not going to continue with half the people working and the other half on ''programs''. Go pick some apples and put an illegal out of work. Pick apples, heck you can get top paying jobs here in Texas building houses that the illegals are taking. Some ethnic groups have mastered the art of getting in ''programs''. Maybe we think all these women with a house load of kids and no hubby is by accident. Funny how when some of the folks go by to check on them, a man is there but slips right out the back door. She says he was her brother. Yea right. Programs, we need to get rid of most of them until we find the ''real'' needy.

Program expansion is a real problem for sure where the intended use and scope steadily increases until people who indeed should not be in those programs get those services and do not get off them.

As for particular ethnic groups who use those services, white/non-hispanics are our highest users.

The problem is that most services aren't measured correctly and so real data that can be used to effectively evaluate a program isn't there and therefore legislators are resistent to make changes. Add lobbyists who defend the program in it's entirety because they fear that any change-even a small one would automatically collapse the ability to use that program.

Just like the NRA!

Originally Posted by TallTexan

I assume you are either in a program or make youir living working in one.

Clearly I'm one of the sponges you have cited-ask any of the Forum members who have met me! One day I hope to sponge off the government so much, I hope to get my own line item on the state budget.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Bayou Titan

I don't think it is fair for Dubya to use

as an excuse.

Me neither. Bill could not remember when he got his last BJ so it must be a presidential thing.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Program expansion is a real problem for sure where the intended use and scope steadily increases until people who indeed should not be in those programs get those services and do not get off them.

As for particular ethnic groups who use those services, white/non-hispanics are our highest users.

The problem is that most services aren't measured correctly and so real data that can be used to effectively evaluate a program isn't there and therefore legislators are resistent to make changes. Add lobbyists who defend the program in it's entirety because they fear that any change-even a small one would automatically collapse the ability to use that program.

Just like the NRA!



Clearly I'm one of the sponges you have cited-ask any of the Forum members who have met me! One day I hope to sponge off the government so much, I hope to get my own line item on the state budget.

Well, the NRA is not supported by tax dollars so I don't care what they do. When you start taking tax dollars, you need looked at. Heck, I might hunt me a program one day. Gonna try for Medicare in about 5 years from now. I hope mine is still there and Pedro has not got it.

[chunko]

Ahhhh the sweet sweet smell of subtle racism in the afternoon.

Can't beat it with a stick.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by adavis99

Ahhhh the sweet sweet smell of subtle racism in the afternoon.

Can't beat it with a stick.

Next time Pedro breaks in your house, steals your whisky bottles, takes your belongings and all your food, I want you to be nice to him and offer him all your money. If not, you are a racist. Subtle, but a racist.

[ablexus]

[Kronos1965]

Originally Posted by TallTexan

Next time Pedro breaks in your house, steals your whisky bottles, takes your belongings and all your food, I want you to be nice to him and offer him all your money. If not, you are a racist. Subtle, but a racist.

Statistics would state that 80% of the United States is white so 8 out of 10 people breaking into his house would be white.

I do not know if they keep statistics on offenders by their names! My mom's name is Juanita and she's as white as they come so I'll assume that when you refer to Pedro, I take it to mean that you also assume that he could be white.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Yes, Americans have been duped by Barack and he's a terrorist, tied to them, and I assume plotting something.

For my own understanding, what does Senator Obama plan on doing with his nefarious ties?

Don't know, and hope to never find out. It is enough to raise doubts about him. Given him the keys to the white house is not my idea of a smart move.

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Statistics would state that 80% of the United States is white so 8 out of 10 people breaking into his house would be white.

I do not know if they keep statistics on offenders by their names! My mom's name is Juanita and she's as white as they come so I'll assume that when you refer to Pedro, I take it to mean that you also assume that he could be white.

You assumed wrong. Pedro as an illegal alien. The same ones you want us to allow to come over in groves, break our laws and put up their mexican flag. I could be talked into this if the supporters agreed to pay their way and put them up in their own homes. We just finished a trial in Houston where a illegal killed one of our police officers . The officer stopped him for a routine traffic violation. When he got up to the car, Pedro shot him 10 times. They give life in prison in lieu of death because they said he had a rough life. Hurt one of mine and he will have a rough death.

[rholland]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

Program expansion is a real problem for sure where the intended use and scope steadily increases until people who indeed should not be in those programs get those services and do not get off them.

As for particular ethnic groups who use those services, white/non-hispanics are our highest users.
The problem is that most services aren't measured correctly and so real data that can be used to effectively evaluate a program isn't there and therefore legislators are resistent to make changes. Add lobbyists who defend the program in it's entirety because they fear that any change-even a small one would automatically collapse the ability to use that program.

Just like the NRA!



Clearly I'm one of the sponges you have cited-ask any of the Forum members who have met me! One day I hope to sponge off the government so much, I hope to get my own line item on the state budget.

This is false. In the 1960s, a study found that most welfare recipients are white. At the time, however, near 90% of the population was white. At all times, blacks were more likely than whites to receive welfare, but when the white population was nearly 90% white, obviously whites made up a majority of welfare recipients.

Today, that is not true anymore. In part because welfare was vastly expanded to include money for bastard children (WIC), housing projects, etc. But it is also due to the white population dropping to only about 65% of all Americans.

Whites still receive more Social Security (I guess we should kill whitey, how dare he live so long!), but minorities receive more of every other form of government welfare. And let’s not forget that whites are the ones who pay over 90% of all taxes collected by the government. Asians pay their fair share. Blacks and Latinos (especially the illegals) pay very little because our tax system is so “progressive” [meaning the more you make, the higher your tax rate will be]. So therefore, whites do not take from the government. Poor whites take from other whites. Blacks, meanwhile, take predominantly from the “whitey” they hate so much.

Finally, whites rarely stay on welfare for a long time. In the ghetto, almost everyone receives lifetime welfare in one form or another. How many whites do you know who not only never had a job, but don’t even have a single friend or relative with a job? I don’t know any.