Obama Said It...HHMMMM...Change Huh?

[37L1]

He says he's going to do a lot of things.

Guess what I'm not clear on is the details, like how all these things he's going to do is going to be paid for.

As far as Obama's track record, this was the most pro-Obama article I could find after a short search. It was written as a rebuttal to Clinton's hit of her being the more experienced.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...704117,00.html

Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
The Illinois Democrat likes to quote something Bill Clinton once said: "The truth is, you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Mine is rooted in the real lives of real people, and it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."
After college, Obama moved to Chicago for a low-paying job as a community organizer. He worked with poor families on the South Side to get improvements in public housing, particularly the removal of asbestos.
"Nobody else running for president has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help people," said Jerry Kellman, who first hired Obama as a community organizer.
Obama also fought for student summer jobs and a program to keep at-risk children from dropping out of school. More importantly, say those who worked with Obama, he showed people how to organize and confront powerful interests.
"He had to train residents to stand up for their own rights," said former organizer Loretta Augustine-Herron, who was part of Obama's Developing Communities Project.
Obama left that job to get a law degree. Afterward, he returned to Chicago and ran Project VOTE. The organization recruited hundreds of registrars to sign up new voters, particularly within the city's black population. Registration jumped nearly 15 points between the 1992 primary and the general election.
The registration wave was credited with making Carol Moseley Braun the first black female senator and helping Bill Clinton carry Illinois in his first presidential race. It also got insiders talking about Obama as a political candidate.
Obama then spent several years focusing on the law, both as an attorney at a small firm specializing in civil rights and as a lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago.
As an attorney, he was on the team that successfully sued the state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law. Obama also worked on case of a whistle-blower who lost her job after exposing waste and corruption in a medical research project. The whistle-blower ended up with a $5 million settlement.
Obama was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, when Democrats were in the minority. He proposed hundreds of new laws, including universal health care, tougher gun control and expanded welfare, but saw most of them spiked by Republican leadership.
He did have some successes, though — particularly in passing legislation sharply restricting the gifts that Illinois politicians could accept from lobbyists. Illinois has notoriously weak government ethics laws, and the Gift Ban Act was the first major new restriction since the Watergate era.
Obama also helped set up Illinois' "KidCare" program that provided health care to children in families that did not qualify for Medicaid.
John Bouman, president of the Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law, said Obama's work helped make the program more consumer-friendly. He also said Obama was often willing to give up credit for the legislation if that helped win Republican support.
"It tells you something that as a relatively junior member in the minority party, he was an important negotiator," Bouman said.
When Democrats gained a majority in the Senate, Obama's political mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, gave him high-profile assignments, including two contentious issues involving police — videotaped interrogations and racial profiling.
Police weren't happy about recording their interrogations of murder suspects or having to study racial bias in traffic stops. Initially, they opposed both pieces of legislation.
But Obama made clear that something was going to pass with or without their support. Ultimately, police groups endorsed both bills and they won unanimous approval in the Senate.
Obama was generally regarded as an effective and practical, although decidedly liberal, state lawmaker. One of his Republican colleagues was so wowed that he has appeared in an Obama campaign ad, but others aren't impressed by his legislative record.
"I would say it was run of the mill, honestly," said Sen. Christine Radogno, R-Lemont, who entered the legislature at the same time Obama did.
Obama was a part-time state senator in that he served in the Illinois legislature at the same time he practiced law. He became a state lawmaker in 1997, four years ahead of Hillary Clinton's entrance into elected office, as U.S. senator.
When Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he said he wished to get things done rather than grab headlines, and cited Hillary Clinton as the sort of workhorse he wanted to be.
He teamed with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to study the dangers of nuclear proliferation and pass legislation meant to keep nuclear material from falling into the hands of terrorists.
Obama also joined with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., after Hurricane Katrina to improve oversight of federal spending.
And he shared billing with a Republican presidential hopeful when he joined Arizona Sen. John McCain in sponsoring legislation that called for sharp, mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. The effort failed.

[TallTexan]

Obama says a lot. He has done nothing. His record as a person who will reach across the aisle is something he has never done. His record as pro military is not backed up by his voting record. This guy has no record. His speaches are like your speaches, I don't know who you are, where you are, why you say the things you do, why some of your remarks are different at times. You might be a child molestor, bank robber, or even a politition. The bank robber is not to bad but a politition, that is bad! So when you have no record, I look at your past. His past sucks. Rev Wright, Louis Faracan, the terrorist bomber he buddies with, his wife is just now proud of America, he refuses to salute the flag, will not say the pledge, yea, this guy stinks. He is hiding a lot of things. Now, since he is running for president, he wants me to think he is GI Joe. This guy is a liar and I think you know it. If Osama was the dem candiditate, he would get a lot of votes. It would be the ABB crowd. Anybody but Bush.

[nytitan1]

Obama wants a stornger military are you kidding me he had an interview that stated he wanted to cut back on all military spending strong on military i think not. A couple of other things i found.
1 father was a goat herder LIAR, he was a privliged well educated youth who went on to work with the kenyan government.
2Father wa sa proud freedom fighter liar he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent kenyan government.
3My family has strong ties to african freedom liaryour cousinRaila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturna legitimate election in 2007, in kenyaIt is the first wide spread violence in decades.
5 My grandmother has always been a christian, LiAR , she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews.
6 My name is african swahili LIAR your name is arabic and baraka from which Barck came means blessed in that language.
7 I never practiced islam LIAR you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a muslimand kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8 My schoolin indonesia was christian LIAR you were registered as muslim there and got in trouble in koranic studies for making faces check your own book.
9An ebony article moved me to run for office LIAREbony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesnt and never did exist.
10 Iwont run on a noational ticket in 08 LIAR here you are despite saying live on tv that you would not have enoughxperience by then and you are all about having experience first.
11 present votes are common in illinois LIAR they are common for you but not many others have 130 no votes
12 I was a professor of law LIAR you were a senior lecturer on leave.
Without me there would be no ethics bill LIAR you didnt write it introduce it change it or create it.
I wrote a tough nuclear bill LIAR your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandring and lack of all regulation mainly because of your nuclear donor EXELON from which david axlerod came.
This man is not who he says he is i will try to find the interview where he says he wants to seriously downsize the military basically leaving us open to all kinds of things look out people this man is a liar.

[matthews]

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by matthews

[matthews]

Surely you aren't implying that politicians lie?

[TallTexan]

I don't think he is implying that politicians lie, but that a lot of folks believe the lies even though the truth is right in front of them. I could be a conservative and vote conservative, but I would not vote for a conservative if he is as anti American as this guy is. Sometimes you gotta just admit when the guy hangs out with skunks, he just might be a skunk.

[matthews]

So as long as he's patriotic, he can lie?

[TallTexan]

He can lie because patriots give him that right. Something he would not be able to do in Africa, his country of choice.

[matthews]

If it's his country of choice, shouldn't he be running for office in Africa?

[TallTexan]

Originally Posted by matthews

If it's his country of choice, shouldn't he be running for office in Africa?

My point exactly. You are comming around Matt.

[[SC]Titan]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

He goes to church. You apparently want him to go to one on your approved list.

He loves America-has said so. You apparently want him to do so in your approved way. And how many American haters run for President-what a way to show it...

He has supported all groups-said so in his book. Apparently you have determined that he hates whites and have insider knowledge that no other American outside of conservatives has.

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oh, so I get it now...if you say/write it...it MUST be true!!

in that case, all of the stuff you read on the internet must be true too cause somebody said it/wrote it !!

wow...life is so much easier now that I know everything that one says/writes is true and can't be a lie.

also, that is no church...any "church" whose leader preaches all that racial hatred BS that he does is LIGHT YEARS from a real church...wake up already

have you not realized that having multiple political parties only serves to divide the country rather than unite it? that people will almost always pick out the flaws/negatives of something/someone they do not like and do the opposite to something/someone that they DO like? that anyone who thinks differently than they do is wrong and convince themselves they are right sometimes out of arrogance alone?

all this political talk is a neverending circle of BS. agree to disagree and move on. you'll spend your whole life trying to convince others that you are right and in the end, it won't work.

"a wise man never has to prove his point" - can't remember who said it but if you're right and you know it, your point will prove itself to everyone one way or another