what's why there's an "Off-Topic" section. don't be so sensitive.
a good (or bad) debate is fine in the "Off-Topic" arena.
and a physical "debate" is "fine" too, if you can avoid the lawman and the lawyers afterwards.
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Twenty Aught Four Titan KC 4x4 SE, Smoke: Off-Road/Big-Tow/Utility/Bench 6-seater.
"The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting by fools," Thucydides.
I'll be voting for Bush.I think he's done a wonderful job. Have you forgotten 911? I suppose we should have set back and let the terrorists get away with killing thousands of people? If the Democrats take over they'll take control of all of our guns.The crooks will be the only ones that have them. Why can't people stand together ,instead of constantly putting down our President?
Kerry is an idiot and a hypocrite. i would rather have bush in office than the popularity slut Kerry. Kerry will take the side of whatever is popular and change his mind when it isn't. Hey Kerry is married to the Multi-millionaire owner of Heinz 57, what a gold diggin whore. don't ever put McCain and Kerry in the same sentence. McCain's military history puts Kerry's falsified and ***-kissing service record to shame. uck Kerry!!!
I've read a little on Bush's history & while I think he's okay that has me concerned as a military guy. Also, while we're at it what about the Weapons Of Mass Destruction? Sure, we got Saddam but, even then he still kind of lied about it. I haven't seen any WMD? Just my two cents & also what about our job market? We need something to be done about that so it gives everyone a fair chance to own a Titan.
I have a good friend who is a Lt. Colonel - Commander of Camp Anaconda in Iraq. He just returned from a year + of duty, just north of Bagdad. He makes a really good point that I can't believe no-one in the media thinks about....
No one in Iraq has even STARTED looking for WMD yet. Greater Iraq is so dangerous that any attempts to go looking for WMD will just get more soldiers shot up. My buddy said that many local Iraqis look at you "like you just said the sky is blue" if you ask if there are WMD in Iraq. It's well known that the Baathists buried most of their conventional weapons to try and prevent them from being destroyed (they buried all of their military aircraft and much heavy artillery, as well as TONS of general munitions.), so it's not a big stretch to imagine stockpiles of chemical agents buried in the desert somewhere.
Hell, I can't even find my wallet in my house half the time. How are they supposed to have searched the ENTIRE desert by now? As far as the media and most loud mouthed citizens are concerned, my common sense meter is hitting rock bottom.
As far as who to vote in for president...man I don't know. I have voted Republican in the past, but between the All Children Left Behind fiasco (non-funded piece of crap legislation), and the Medicare (costs more tax money, but doesn't help most folks), and the lousy job handling this war, I'm not too sure. Bush has balls (and handled 9/11 very well), but so did Jesse Ventura, and look how well he did as Governor of our great state...lol... Kerry strikes me as a "I'll push any legislation that keeps me in office" kind of dude. Also, how can Mr. Ketchup Money have any concept of the middle class? What a fraud. Also, it's called a BROW LIFT you freak (just threw that in, of course it has no bearing on his candidacy). I don't like either candidate. Maybe I'll write in Frank Zappa again.
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If you value any type of off-road recreation, never vote democrat, especially Kerry, the tree-hugging goon. We're losing hundreds of acres every day...
I'd vote for Jesse V.! He rocked! In MN, and most of the country the press portrayed him as a joke. But everyone who mocked him wishes he was back now that Pawlenty is governor... LOL! Pawlenty has successfuly shut down most good riding areas, a lot of ditches, streams, creekbeds, etc. All without a vote.. he just did it cuz he's a tree hugger too.
And Kerry, he'll shut down all recreation if he could. It's nice we have people so busy they don't have time for recreation making these idiotic choices...
If you're not into outdoor vehicle recreation, this doesn't mean squat, I know. But if you are, it's starting to feel like the land of the not-so-free. Raising registrations and taking away riding areas...
I'm a little bit radical. Even though I didn't write this, it pretty well sums it up for me.............
YOU CAN BE A DEMOCRAT - Virtually anyone can be a Democrat, but if you want to be a GOOD Democrat, here are some necessary prerequisites.
1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of law-abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U. S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more affected by yuppies driving SUVs.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to be against capital punishment but support abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists from Seattle do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt politicians, start wars.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is really a lady.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't been in charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.
If you agree.....VOTE DEMOCRAT !!!
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'04 White SE CC, Graphite/Titanium, Big tow pkg,
Pop. bench pkg, Utility bed pkg, Step rails,A.R.E. Lid
Born on 1/14/04
It's obvious Titan buyers are on average a bunch of Republicans. Glad I am not average.
We remember 9/11, yes, but what has 9/11 have to do with Iraq? A vote for Bush is a vote for Halliburton.
Condi Rice has an oil tanker named after her. The "president" of Afganistan is a consultant for Unocal. The Bush admin. flew Bin Ladin's family members out of the US on 9/12.
I'm a little bit radical. Even though I didn't write this, it pretty well sums it up for me.............
YOU CAN BE A DEMOCRAT ...
If you agree.....VOTE DEMOCRAT !!!
Not an American and don't really go for this type of discussion and i probably won't follow it much BUT... this definition sure sounds like our useless Liberal leaders in Canada!! Be wary of them!
Also, I kinda agree with most of you points, with the little I follow of American politics it sur elooks accurate. Sure looks like a list of political correctness which for the most part I abhore. If that is the democrats...
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Titan CC LE 4x4 Sparkle Red Bug Guard and every option except off-road, DVD, Sunroof & Nav.
Add ons: Sliding bed extender, Leer 180 cap, BFG KO's
Just passed the 57,000km mark!
Born on 03/04
Now it is up for sale - or at least the BFGs and the Cap!
Haven't yet decided who to vote for. When the election gets closer I'll have to choose either higher taxes or a safer USA. Will have to think about it till DUH sets in.
Haven't yet decided who to vote for. When the election gets closer I'll have to choose either higher taxes or a safer USA. Will have to think about it till DUH sets in.
That's DUH Bya. Tax cuts without spending cuts are just tax deferrals. Glad your kids feel like paying Halliburton's bills.
How safe can we be after Bush alienates the entire planet?
so we've been attacked, so it's good to stick together against the intolerant and envy ridden Islamist enemy, but we're still a great democracy and we can throw out clueless (and heartless fools).
no candidate is close to being perfect and neither party has all the solutions
but i expect my President to be honest with all of us and
really combat terrorists.
yeah, Lt. Kerry aint no saint, but what senator is that has suvrived more than one term, they're all opportunists (just like most of us are capitalists). Kerry's definately a fighter that will not hide behind his wealth or family.
if Sen. McCain or Gen. Powell was the GOP nominee than he'll have my vote, but Hell hath frozen over before i'll vote in Bush/Cheny. It's not that I mind Mr. Bush, he's a well entended enough, but it's his dumb adviors and the intolerant un-American right wing facists types he listens to that's the problem.
God, my family, my Country, democratic capitalism, and my right to bear arms!! and I trust these values with Bush less than I do with Kerry.
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Twenty Aught Four Titan KC 4x4 SE, Smoke: Off-Road/Big-Tow/Utility/Bench 6-seater.
"The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting by fools," Thucydides.
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