Is Going Green worth Bleeding Red?

[Papa_D]

Originally Posted by Kronos1965

LOL-just trying to make sure that P-daddy doesn't get his angry on more than usual...

I'm not sure how you define angry but this is my definition...

YouTube - THE AUDACITY OF HATE - Obama & Pastor Wright's Racist Church

[SpiritOne]

Originally Posted by Papa_D

The only thing leaking out is the truth as far as myself and many others are concerned, I'm sorry you are unable to recognize it.

There is no truth in making false statements like "Obama banning knives" - its a misnomer.

There is no truth in assumptions of Obama becoming a "socialist dictator" - NO modern Socialist country on the planet has a dictator.

There is no truth in going out of your way to post videos of one person as proof of another person's misdeeds - its conjecture.



You sir, are the fear monger. You post things in the most wild and hyped way you can to stir up fear and sway people to your side.

You force people like myself and Kronos to point out the fallacies in your logic, and then label us extreme liberals backing the "ObaMarxist". The truth, is really quite simple. I hate lies and misinformation. I point them out in your posts because the best weapon we have is intelligence. Our largest enemy in this country is not socialism, its ignorance. Misleading people and misinforming people is wrong and leads to people being angry over things that aren't happening.

You are more like Al Gore, than you care to admit. So please, take your Manbearpig and go away. And that sir, is the truth.

[daptech]

Originally Posted by SpiritOne

..............
You sir, are the fear monger....................

Does he scare you?

[OneQuick06]

[SpiritOne]

Originally Posted by daptech

Does he scare you?

simply put.... yes.

Spreading non-truths and fallacies builds fear and discontent. We have enough of both in this country.

[helomech]

Originally Posted by SpiritOne

simply put.... yes.

Spreading non-truths and fallacies builds fear and discontent. We have enough of both in this country.

Dang if he scares you it is a good thing I don't really speak my mind on here.

[Papa_D]

Originally Posted by SpiritOne

simply put.... yes.

Spreading non-truths and fallacies builds fear and discontent. We have enough of both in this country.

Man you aren't kidding about that and if I were the President of the U.S. I would tend to watch the fear mongering and spreading of discontent.

YouTube - Obama Crisis!!!

[Papa_D]

Originally Posted by helomech

Dang if he scares you it is a good thing I don't really speak my mind on here.

Lol, I can only imagine what you might post if you weren't being all PG-13 and watching what you say lest the government accuse you of inciting a riot, lol.

[SpiritOne]

Originally Posted by helomech

Dang if he scares you it is a good thing I don't really speak my mind on here.

oh good, because thats what this forum needs, MORE Misinformation.

[Papa_D]

Originally Posted by SpiritOne

oh good, because thats what this forum needs, MORE Misinformation.

Yes, misinformation is not any fun so they really should curb that practice on the Hill and stop creating 1300 page energy Bills and ramming them down the citizens throat because "WE MUST ACT NOW" due to a make believe "CLIMATE CHANGE CRISIS" that Obama has SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE WITH and many people were gullible enough to believe.

I guess as long as it's a CRISIS, that's supposed to justify covert congressional activities and passing NEW TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS under cover of darkness and calling it by anything other than what it is, a BIG FAT TAX on the American people but wait a minute, Obama said he would not raise taxes on the middle and lower class, just the rich, but hey, it's not called a tax so even though that's what it is, that's not what it's called so I guess technically Obama can say he didn't tax us any more and technically that's not MISINFORMATION, what a load of crap.

It's not called a TAX but rather some fancy name to make it sound harmless by those Progressive/politically correct/Marxist bastards so that most folks won't se it as a TAX but as some "save the whales and polar bears" GREEN LAW and I guess the fact that most representatives didn't even bother to read the most powerful legislation since the Constitution itself and yet espouse it's goodness and signed it anyway, is not misrepresenting anything.

So here we are with the WAXMAN Bill which should be called the TAXMAN Bill.

Then to top it off, when the Bill's author is confronted about the new GREEN TAX LAWS turning otherwise law abiding citizens into so called "unlawful occupants" in their own homes because they violated some "Energy Tax" provision so the "Energy Gestapo" can charge them with GREEN CRIMES, Waxman chooses not to answer the question about whether or not people may be charged with green crimes for violating the GREEN TAX LAWS but instead, chooses to focus on the word Gestapo and ignore the real question.

Anyone in favor of this Bill must also be in favor of otherwise law abiding citizens being turned into criminals because they violate an unconstitutional law and if that's not an ENERGY GESTAPO, I don't know what is so please call your Senators to stop the ENERGY NAZIS and this unprecedented power grab if you aren't too scared to pick up the phone, after all, the government may be listening in on your conversations thanks to the Patriot Act that Obama has yet to repeal, as promised.

YouTube - Climate Bill Will Create "Global Warming Gestapo"

Here's one from your favorite guy, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_fXnt_q4E

[vegasreb]

Originally Posted by Papa_D

Yes, misinformation is not any fun so they really should curb that practice on the Hill and stop creating 1300 page energy Bills and ramming them down the citizens throat because "WE MUST ACT NOW" due to a make believe "CLIMATE CHANGE CRISIS" that Obama has SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE WITH and many people were gullible enough to believe.

I guess as long as it's a CRISIS, that's supposed to justify covert congressional activities and passing NEW TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS under cover of darkness and calling it by anything other than what it is, a BIG FAT TAX on the American people but wait a minute, Obama said he would not raise taxes on the middle and lower class, just the rich, but hey, it's not called a tax so even though that's what it is, that's not what it's called so I guess technically Obama can say he didn't tax us any more and technically that's not MISINFORMATION, what a load of crap.

It's not called a TAX but rather some fancy name to make it sound harmless by those Progressive/politically correct/Marxist bastards so that most folks won't se it as a TAX but as some "save the whales and polar bears" GREEN LAW and I guess the fact that most representatives didn't even bother to read the most powerful legislation since the Constitution itself and yet espouse it's goodness and signed it anyway, is not misrepresenting anything.

So here we are with the WAXMAN Bill which should be called the TAXMAN Bill.

Then to top it off, when the Bill's author is confronted about the new GREEN TAX LAWS turning otherwise law abiding citizens into so called "unlawful occupants" in their own homes because they violated some "Energy Tax" provision so the "Energy Gestapo" can charge them with GREEN CRIMES, Waxman chooses not to answer the question about whether or not people may be charged with green crimes for violating the GREEN TAX LAWS but instead, chooses to focus on the word Gestapo and ignore the real question.

Anyone in favor of this Bill must also be in favor of otherwise law abiding citizens being turned into criminals because they violate an unconstitutional law and if that's not an ENERGY GESTAPO, I don't know what is so please call your Senators to stop the ENERGY NAZIS and this unprecedented power grab if you aren't too scared to pick up the phone, after all, the government may be listening in on your conversations thanks to the Patriot Act that Obama has yet to repeal, as promised.

Here's one from your favorite guy, lol.

Too long again Papa. Please keep em shorter so the rest of us can follow along....

[Papa_D]

Originally Posted by vegasreb

Too long again Papa. Please keep em shorter so the rest of us can follow along....

Sorry, here's the short version. Obama is an unconstitutional, lying, piece of crap Progressive trying to take over the U.S. with a bogus GREEN TAX masquerading as environmental protection and this Bill would give unprecedented power to the federal government over every aspect of your life from cradle to grave.

It can still be stopped by the Senate so please call your Senator and tell them to vote no on this Bill.

U.S. Senate: Senators Home

Obama's own words, "your electricity bill will necessarily skyrocket"

YouTube - Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket

[OneQuick06]

Haha, since when does being progressive mean dragging everyone else down in a ball of fire? Kinda the opposite if you ask me.

[Papa_D]

Yeah, Progressives, "The New Batch" started calling themselves that because Liberal became a bad word, go figure, lol.

I have seen Clinton call herself that and Al Frankin as well but make no mistake, it is just a crazy, tax jacking horse of another color and nothing more.

The first batch of progressives gave us some really stellar "change" like the income tax and prohibition but they are about to be outdone by the new batch of liberals with a GREEN TAX ON EVERYTHING.

Progressive Era - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Significant changes achieved at the national levels included the income tax with the Sixteenth Amendment, direct election of Senators with the Seventeenth Amendment, Prohibition with the Eighteenth Amendment,

[OneQuick06]

Ok, so in my dictionary, progressive = needs .50cal BMG bullet to forehead. Got it filed in my mental rolodex.


And BTW, if I hear the word green when not describing the color of grass or eggs and ham, I may go progressive all over someone's azz. LOL (not intended for those who post of the govt use of the word.) Seriously. F' that tired-assed cliche, unless you're talking about some killer smoke, aka kb, buddah, yesca, you get the point.