2004 Titan Amsoil Series 3000 5w-30 Oil Report

[Mustard]

Here is a Oil Report on my Titan at 15,055 with 7,255 on this interval.

[r_mojo1]

I have one question. If you push your oil above the mfg. suggested milage of 3500, is the warranty voided??

[NorCal 4x4]

BullDawg, looks great for your Titan, (and for Amsoil too).
Thanks for providing hard data!

r_mojo1, nope. Non severe oil change interval is 7,500 miles, but please dbl. check your "NISSAN Service and Maintenance Guide" to verify, (mines out in the Titan).

Owner's manual does state under Change intervals [p. 9-5]
"... Operation under the following conditions may
require more frequent oil and filter changes:

• repeated short distance driving at cold out-side temperatures

• driving in dusty conditions

• extensive idling

• towing a trailer"

I wouldn't do this interval, (7,500 mile), with dino though, and I also believe in first oil and filter change at 1200 miles, (the engine break-in's end point), or less, (to more dino).

Also, before switching to synthetics, you have to consider when you think is the best mileage to do this at, as there is lots of disagreement as what is correct, and even if it should be done at all. Do a search on synthetic, dino, dyno, Amsoil, Mobil, Red Line, Royal, oil, etc. as there are lot of threads here.

You will see people on here saying 2k, 5k, 10k, (miles), or whatever, and even the manufacturers disagreeing: everything from Mobil 1's no dino break-in; Amsoil's 500 mile dino recommendation; to Red Line's 2,000 mile dino to synth switch.

I would think it would depend on your driving habits too. Just make sure the oil meets spec. from owner's manual.

"RECOMMENDED SAE VISCOSITY [p. 9-5]

• SAE 5W-30 viscosity oil is preferred for all
  temperatures.

• SAE 10W-30 or SAE 10W-40 viscosity oils may be used if the ambient temperature is above 0°F (-18°C)."

"ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION [p. 9-4]
... Only those engine oils with the American Petro-
leum Institute (API) CERTIFICATION MARK on
the front of the container should be used. This
type of oil supersedes the existing API SG, SH, or
SJ and Energy Conserving II categories.
If you cannot find engine oil with the API CERTI-
FICATION MARK, use API grade SL Energy
Conserving oil. An oil with a single designation
SL, or in combination with other categories (for
example, SL/CF) may also be used if one with the
API CERTIFICATION MARK cannot be found. An
ILSAC grade GF-III oil can also be used.
NISSAN recommends mineral based oils. These
oils must, however, meet the API quality and SAE
viscosity ratings specified for your vehicle."

[Hatchman]

Numbers look good, I'm using Amsoil 5W/30 myself, but just the regular model. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Series 3000 a heavy duty diesel oil?

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by Hatchman

Numbers look good, I'm using Amsoil 5W/30 myself, but just the regular model. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Series 3000 a heavy duty diesel oil?

Yes it is.

[TitanKing]

I saw that your oil change interval was 7255. And Blackstone said you could have gone longer. I believe most people including myself change every 3000-3750. Is it possible that we all have been snowed into thinking that we "need" to change our oil more often than we need to in order to increase corporate profitability? I`m not saying this is the case. But if we "needed" to change only 7500 miles.......how much would that affect the oil industry, prices of fuel, etc.............?

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by TitanKing

I saw that your oil change interval was 7255. And Blackstone said you could have gone longer. I believe most people including myself change every 3000-3750. Is it possible that we all have been snowed into thinking that we "need" to change our oil more often than we need to in order to increase corporate profitability? I`m not saying this is the case. But if we "needed" to change only 7500 miles.......how much would that affect the oil industry, prices of fuel, etc.............?

I use to think that if I went past 3000 the world was coming to and end. Now that I have went to Syn oil I don't get as worked up about it. The report made me feel much better. The only thing I did not like, the Silicon was high. I think the K&N was the cause of this, I have put the stock air filter back on to see if the number drops on the next test.

I am also planning to install the Amsoil BMK-13 By-pass remote filter setup with the AMS-oiler pre-charger. I will then check at 7500 miles and want to get to 10,000 miles between changes.

-matt

[NorCal 4x4]

Originally Posted by BullDawg

I use to think that if I went past 3000 the world was coming to and end. Now that I have went to Syn oil I don't get as worked up about it. The report made me feel much better. The only thing I did not like, the Silicon was high. I think the K&N was the cause of this, I have put the stock air filter back on to see if the number drops on the next test.

I am also planning to install the Amsoil BMK-13 By-pass remote filter setup with the AMS-oiler pre-charger. I will then check at 7500 miles and want to get to 10,000 miles between changes.

-matt

With the bypass, you could go with Amsoil's 25K or 30K intervals depending on which Amsoil oil, and I think filters at the half-way mark. However, the filters for their bypass systems added to the regular filters and oil, gets costly.
I'd wait until you're out of the warranty.

Oiler pre-chargers, seem like great idea since most of the wear occurs when cold starting with an unlubed engine.

But there are some of the oils with high moly content that claim to provide good barrier protection, (deposit the moly into the metal pores so the cold starts are dry lubricated).

[r_mojo1]

What is the cost of an oil change using Amsoil. I only have 400 miles on my truck and like swarren1 said. The first oil change at 1200 miles is critical. What oil should I use?? Amsoil or regular mobil. What is the difference in $$$

[Mustard]

Amsoil runs between $5.20 - $8.50 a Quart depending on the product line.


Amsoil Store

[SupraTitan]

Replace the K&N with a stock filter and watch the wear numbers drop even further. These engines keep proving that they are easy on oil and basically don't care what kind of oil you run. Nice report, I personally would just like to see silicon come down some if it were me. Do you know if there is silicon in a virgin sample of this oil?

[Mustard]

don't know about the virgin sample. I will post next report in about 7,500 miles.

[SupraTitan]

Found it Amsoil Series 3000 5W-30 (HDD)
Iron: 1
Silicon: 2
Magnesium: 20
Calcium: 3567
Phosphorous: 1107
Zinc: 1365
TBN: 10.98
Visc100: 11.62

[Brons2]

Originally Posted by BullDawg

I use to think that if I went past 3000 the world was coming to and end. Now that I have went to Syn oil I don't get as worked up about it. The report made me feel much better. The only thing I did not like, the Silicon was high. I think the K&N was the cause of this, I have put the stock air filter back on to see if the number drops on the next test.

I am also planning to install the Amsoil BMK-13 By-pass remote filter setup with the AMS-oiler pre-charger. I will then check at 7500 miles and want to get to 10,000 miles between changes.

-matt

The silicon is high because the seals are still leaching it on your relatively new motor. I wouldn't change anything. 15ppm is not bad in 7255 miles.

I suggest posting this on BobIsTheOilGuy!!

[sgbofav]

So how do you put your Amsoil website under your signature without running astray off the no solicitations rule? I'm an amsoil dealer also, and when I inquired about becoming a sponsor on this website, all they had available was their $300.00 for 3 month plan. They did not have any clause for a signature link like they do at dodgetalk.com.

Back to synthetic oil and break-in

Even if you were to switch to synthetic oil at 500 miles, your engine will still break in. Oil analysis results prove that the wear metals will remain high until break-in has finished. The key to break-in in my opinion is the initial 500 to 1000 miles. You want to stick with petroleum oil.

As for warranty issues, if you stick within the 7500 miles limit, Nissan won't jam you. If you want to extend your oil change interval even longer, UOAs would be great to back-up. The results can be used to prove that your oil was not the cause of the failure.

I also used the Series 3000 5w-30 in my Dakota. It is a fleet oil, so it can be used in both diesels and 4-stroke vehicles.