Poll on rear end failures - Page 6

Milowilli · 05-10-2006, 09:55 AM

I was passing Naples Nissan dealership in Naples Fl, and in the back yard near the dumpster were a pile of rear ends off Titan trucks. I just had to take a picture. The tech there said they burn up alot.. See pic.

Toxman · 05-10-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Milowilli

I was passing Naples Nissan dealership in Naples Fl, and in the back yard near the dumpster were a pile of rear ends off Titan trucks. I just had to take a picture. The tech there said they burn up alot.. See pic.

Now here is a picture that will have Nissan $hitting gold bricks!!! I'm sure they monitor this site and you can bet there is an internal memo going out right now to all the dealerships saying "DO NOT stack worn parts in public view!!!"

How many were there? Looks like 5-6? Problem is they replace the rearend for anything that goes wrong with the axle assembly. It doesn't have to be a diff blow out. I do notice a couple aluminium diff covers. I hope those are 04's and 05's not 06 axle assemblies!!!

CHEIF · 05-10-2006, 07:22 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words

If big brother Nissan IS watching, I hope they enjoyed that one.

LOL you gotta love that one

rjp06titan · 06-09-2006, 07:25 AM

have 2006 titan rear end was replaced at 2000miles due to whinning sound with a new complete rear end assembly . now have 500 miles on new rear end and it is being to make the same noise .

Toxman · 06-09-2006, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rjp06titan

have 2006 titan rear end was replaced at 2000miles due to whinning sound with a new complete rear end assembly . now have 500 miles on new rear end and it is being to make the same noise .

Rip,

If it is the rear end then something else is causing it to fail. Is it a 4X2 or 4X4?

Go to the thread below and give WhiteLE your info. We would definately like to learn about your past failure and where the latest issue leads. We haven't had many 06 failures reported!

Nissan Titan-NHSTA REPORTED FAILURES-of powertrain:driveline:rear differential unit:

rjp06titan · 06-10-2006, 07:50 AM

my titan is 4x2 it was a ring gear and pinion whine in my opinoin. dealer was real cooperative and replaced the rear assembly. i do not think i was the first with the problem. i talk to service mangerby phone yesterday about new rear end begining to make same noise but i wanted to put more miles on it to see if it get worse. whine sound only when not in a pull, just at a steady speed. let off accelerator noise goes away, apply accelerator and noise goes away. not bad but believe it will only get worse.

Toxman · 06-10-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rjp06titan

my titan is 4x2 it was a ring gear and pinion whine in my opinoin. dealer was real cooperative and replaced the rear assembly. i do not think i was the first with the problem. i talk to service mangerby phone yesterday about new rear end begining to make same noise but i wanted to put more miles on it to see if it get worse. whine sound only when not in a pull, just at a steady speed. let off accelerator noise goes away, apply accelerator and noise goes away. not bad but believe it will only get worse.

Could be a bearing also. Keep us posted.

lhtiii · 11-30-2007, 05:28 PM

Mine rear differential broke backing out of the driveway at 37700 miles. Just out of waranty. Nissan replaced the assembly without any problem. Now at 43000 the rear u-joint on the front drive shaft (4x4) broke while I was doing around 70 on the freeway. The spining shaft put a hole in the transmission case, the transfer case, and the exhaust, pulled out the wires to the oxygen sensor and tranmission, and pushed up the floor boards. It made for a few exciting seconds before I pulled over. When I got pulled up onto the flatbed, trans fluid poured out like water. After a talk with Nissan, they are fixing everything under waranty. Still love the truck, but don't have much faith in the reliability.

Learjet · 12-01-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lhtiii

Mine rear differential broke backing out of the driveway at 37700 miles. Just out of waranty. Nissan replaced the assembly without any problem. Now at 43000 the rear u-joint on the front drive shaft (4x4) broke while I was doing around 70 on the freeway. The spining shaft put a hole in the transmission case, the transfer case, and the exhaust, pulled out the wires to the oxygen sensor and tranmission, and pushed up the floor boards. It made for a few exciting seconds before I pulled over. When I got pulled up onto the flatbed, trans fluid poured out like water. After a talk with Nissan, they are fixing everything under waranty. Still love the truck, but don't have much faith in the reliability.

Powertrain warranty is 5 yr / 60,000 miles.

technorev · 12-02-2007, 12:15 AM

Nissan amazes me in allowing this problem to continue and I've heard of quite a few that have had rear end replacements, and some having as many as 4 replacements. With many truck enthusiasts turning to the net and to groups such as this to get information and compare problems etc. and with those checking out reliability before they buy, why o why would Nissan allow this on going problem to continue year after year? Makes no sense to me. They are so close to having one of the greatest trucks out there to allow this problem to continue. And then there is talk of a diesel in 2009. Can you imagine what that will do to this rear!

I've been watching this problem for a couple of years now. I am ready to purchase a new truck and will pay cash, but I'm not laying my hard earned money down on a Titan until they address this issue. If I need a truck before then, it'll have to be something else, I know of too many who have had problems. Still waiting Nissan!

NorCal 4x4 · 12-02-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by technorev

Nissan amazes me in allowing this problem to continue and I've heard of quite a few that have had rear end replacements, and some having as many as 4 replacements. With many truck enthusiasts turning to the net and to groups such as this to get information and compare problems etc. and with those checking out reliability before they buy, why o why would Nissan allow this on going problem to continue year after year? Makes no sense to me. They are so close to having one of the greatest trucks out there to allow this problem to continue. And then there is talk of a diesel in 2009. Can you imagine what that will do to this rear!

I've been watching this problem for a couple of years now. I am ready to purchase a new truck and will pay cash, but I'm not laying my hard earned money down on a Titan until they address this issue. If I need a truck before then, it'll have to be something else, I know of too many who have had problems. Still waiting Nissan!

Didn't they upgrade the rear differential for the '08 model?

And, for at least the ones with the e-lock, they upgraded it from a 2 pinion to a 4 pinion spider setup back in late '05 or early '06.

We have a 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty, and 7 year 100,000 mile warranties are available, so if you are that worried buy an extended warranty or a POS big three that is assembled in Mexico or Canada.

technorev · 12-02-2007, 08:18 PM

I believe the only upgrade on the '08 rear is a larger diameter axle to support carrying more weight. And many on this site with the late '05 as well as '06 trucks have had multiple replacements, you can check the nhtsa website to verify this fact. Also there was a thread on this site with a Dana engineer stating that the new axle design was still having trouble with axle seals and basically saying the rear end was too small for the power.

I don't believe paying for an extended warranty on a new truck is the answer. What does that say about the quality of the truck when it's highly suggested that you buy an extended warranty? I believe that kind of thinking enables the manufacturer to continue to produce a sub-par product, as long as the masses will to continue to purchase it. All I'm saying is that I am amazed at how slow they are in dealing with this problem when they are so close to having the best truck out there.

gabriel c. · 12-02-2007, 09:46 PM

i see only 04s and 05s are the 06s exempt from the failure? ive got an 06 4x2 and at the pace im racking up the miles ( i just hit 9000 in 1.5 years) ill bee way out of warranty to take care of the problem if it ever appears.

whiteLE · 12-03-2007, 09:05 PM

Attached is the latest rear end failure log

white

NorCal 4x4 · 12-03-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by technorev

I believe the only upgrade on the '08 rear is a larger diameter axle to support carrying more weight.

If they didn't fix the problem, it must be isolated, since they are the one's paying to replace the rear axles and differentials.

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And many on this site with the late '05 as well as '06 trucks have had multiple replacements, you can check the nhtsa website to verify this fact.

Multiple failure from the same owner, suggest a lemon, with something misaligned that the technicians continue to miss. And of course there are those owners that had more than one Titan, different years that had a failure. I wouldn't necessarily say they abuse their Titans, for one I feel a truck should take almost any so called abuse, but also because some people win Powerball, or get hit by lightning more than once.

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Originally Posted by technorev

Also there was a thread on this site with a Dana engineer stating that the new axle design was still having trouble with axle seals and basically saying the rear end was too small for the power.

Hearsay your honor, this is the internet after all.

Also axle seals have absolutely nothing to do with the rear differential failures, unless someone was so dumb, that they let their differential drain a couple of quarts of fluid onto their driveway, and then went and did some power braking at a stop light.

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Originally Posted by technorev

I don't believe paying for an extended warranty on a new truck is the answer. What does that say about the quality of the truck when it's highly suggested that you buy an extended warranty?

I would suggest an extended warranty for any new car or truck. With the complexity of new cars and trucks and the labor costs it's a smart move in my opinion. And if I was one of those that are certain most rear diffs will fail, I'd think it's an even better idea. I'll be covered. [I'm almost at 60K miles now].

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Originally Posted by technorev

I believe that kind of thinking enables the manufacturer to continue to produce a sub-par product, as long as the masses will to continue to purchase it. All I'm saying is that I am amazed at how slow they are in dealing with this problem when they are so close to having the best truck out there.

I believe they have dealt with it. If it was a large percentage of Titans, it would cost them, since they offer such a long power-train warranty. I believe the average mileage of the failures on the spreadsheet that summarizes the NHTSA is less than 24K miles, so if a common issue that would mean two axle replacements during the warranty period. At probably $2000 cost to Nissan in parts and dealer labor ... a rather costly issue to ignore, especially on the '08, where they were already beefing up the axle.

Btw, if mine doesn't fail by the end of my extended warranty, at 100,000 miles or so, I will probably replace the old style 2-pinion spider on my e-lock with a 4-pinion True-Track Limited Slip Differential, (LSD), since Nissan did switch to a 4 pinion spider gear on their e-lock, as mentioned in my previous post. Mostly though because a TT LSD is more useful to me, and a 4 pinion spider gear replacement would probably cost me more.