I have a buddy that drove my titan, and thinks his chevy will beat my titan in a race. 0-60.. or maybe 50-80, passing gear. what do you guys think. Thanks
From a pure HP per pound standpoint, it's very close, but the Titan has gobs more torque and a better transmission. My guess is you'd beat him, stock for stock, by a reasonable margin.
Only one way to find out!
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Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
In any spec sheet I have ever seen, the chevy does a HIGH 8 second 0-60 with the titan always doing a mid 7 second (that is a crew 4x4 Titan and Z71 4-door Chevy).
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
oh hell yeah!
the ss, im not sure.
i, may have raced, an '06 dodge, killed him.
i, also, may have raced, a ford lightning...he pulled ahead of me until about 90...but then i caught him, he outran me when i limited @ 111mph.
this truck is one bad ride.
i test drove an '07 f250 king ranch today, not impressed at all!
From a pure HP per pound standpoint, it's very close, but the Titan has gobs more torque and a better transmission. My guess is you'd beat him, stock for stock, by a reasonable margin.
Only one way to find out!
First off the Chevy has more HP for '06, 310HP at 5400RPM
Is his truck 4x2? 4x4 ? SC? KC? QC? All this things factor in.
If you guys are the same style it would be a close race with you needing the holeshot. How many miles on your truck? More is better, 10K+++
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
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Originally Posted by Wildmike
First off the Chevy has more HP for '06, 310HP at 5400RPM
Is his truck 4x2? 4x4 ? SC? KC? QC? All this things factor in.
If you guys are the same style it would be a close race with you needing the holeshot. How many miles on your truck? More is better, 10K+++
The 310HP 5.3 was only standard on LT2 and LT3 ext. cab short-bed 4x4s, optional on all the other ext. cab short-bed 4x4s, N/A on all the other models, which all got the 295HP 5.3, 195HP 4.3 V6, or 6.0L 345HP V8.
Yes, all things factor in, but the comparison was like-for-like (as much as possile, as far as configurations go between a Titan and Silverado 1500).
Also, the 310HP 5.3 made the same amount of torque at the same RPM as the 295HP (335@4000)
The Titan's 5.6 makes more HP than the 295HP 5.3 at 300RPM less than the 5.3. It also makes peaks HP at 400RPM less than the 5.3.
Torque is what moves, HP is what determines how quickly it happens. Like for like, I'd give the nod to the Titan but it's likely close enough to be a driver's race.
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Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
u can take him no prob. i am in the worx of gettin my first titan now and have had many silverado 5.3s. there pretty fast and with an exhaust and intake are quicker than the ss. i drove the ss and it is just way to heavy and the awd sucks up all the power. they could smoke a dodge especially off the line but the gears are spread way to far apart. the titans 5 speed tranny is incredible at keeping in the powerand
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
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Originally Posted by Yahooligan
The 310HP 5.3 was only standard on LT2 and LT3 ext. cab short-bed 4x4s, optional on all the other ext. cab short-bed 4x4s, N/A on all the other models, which all got the 295HP 5.3, 195HP 4.3 V6, or 6.0L 345HP V8.
Yes, all things factor in, but the comparison was like-for-like (as much as possile, as far as configurations go between a Titan and Silverado 1500).
Also, the 310HP 5.3 made the same amount of torque at the same RPM as the 295HP (335@4000)
The Titan's 5.6 makes more HP than the 295HP 5.3 at 300RPM less than the 5.3. It also makes peaks HP at 400RPM less than the 5.3.
Torque is what moves, HP is what determines how quickly it happens. Like for like, I'd give the nod to the Titan but it's likely close enough to be a driver's race.
Thanks for clearing that up Yahoo. It's good to know not all '06's have the 310HP.
I agree about the torque. The problem is the Titans overrev to 6000RPM.
But if he only has the 295HP at 5200RPM motor then it should be no problem. I have drove several of those and they need some help (chip,CAI,exhaust)
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
Some facts are wrong on the post above, my chevy is a 05 and it has 4.10 gears and its a W/T not even an ls the most base truck out there. If he has a z71 and he has a 5.3 ho 310hp chances are he has a 3.42 rear end gear and if he has a z71 with the 295 he has a 3.73 gear or the powerless 3.23.
If you want to know if he has the 310hp one look in his glove box for the code l33
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
Is the chevy a reg cab short bed, what mods they respod very well. Its very easy to get a 5.3 into low 14 sec 1/4 mile. If its has no mods its a close race.
Re: Can my titan take a 06 chevy 1/2 ton with the 5.3
Here's some food for thought: A posting off another site about the titan.
IMO based on actual ownership of, or at least driving, the vehicles listed. Also, we are talking STOCK vehicles here not modded ones. Mod's change everything as different engines respond differently to them.
1 - HEMI 5.7L & GM 6.0L Max about even
2 - 5.3L GM & 5.6L Titan about even
3 - Tundra 4.7L
4 - F150 5.4L Triton
5 - GM 4.8L & Dodge 4.7L
6 - Ford 4.6L Triton
I am not going into the older trucks & engines that are no longer made like the OBS trucks with the 350, Dodge Rams with the 360, 302 & 351 Fords, and the like. Strictly speaking about current models which I believe was the intent of the post. Also, the GM 8.1L and Ford and Dodge V10's are not listed because they are HD truck engines and are for pulling. Not that they can't be and aren't fast but they make their power down low and are at a disadvantage in a race.
Hands down the HEMI is the fastest truck I have owned or driven. HANDS DOWN! Not trying to start anything but just how it is. I had an 04 Quad Cab 1500 SLT 4X4 and it would absolutely destroy my 05 Silverado 1500 Extended Cab 4X4 with the HO 5.3L. Would not even be close.
Same exact size tires and basically the same gearing as well( 3.55's for Dodge & 3.42's for Chevy ). Even though the Chevy is quite a bit lighter the engine just does not have the same power. The best way I can compare them would be to equate the HEMI to an old BB muscle car and the Chevy to a SB muscle car. Both are powerful but one just is so much more so. Punch the HEMI and it sucks you into the seat like a rocket launch and it just pulls harder and harder as they RPM's climb. Punch the 5.3L and it just has a mild and steady pull and you just don't accelerate as fast bottom line.
I like the Chevy and it has all the power I need but in a race the HEMI would eat it up and crap it out. If the race was to see who could pass the most gas stations, instead of a normal 1/4 mile or road race, then the Chevy would win easy. Again I LOVE MY CHEVY so don't label me a Dodge troll. Just being honest and answering the question.
The one real chance that has nothing to do with the driver some of these other trucks besides the 6.0L would have against a HEMI Ram would be in extreme heat. The HEMI hates heat and really loses power. The difference when you floored it say during the middle of an August day when it is 90 and hummid vs flooring it on an August night when it is down to 75-80 and much less hummid is amazing. The HEMI definitely prefers cooler temps. Heat is it's achillies heal.
It is possible, maybe even probable, that the GM 1500 6.0L Vortec MAX trucks could take a HEMI Ram however. Lighter truck with same power numbers( 5 ftlbs advantage to GM )usually means the lighter truck wins. I have not driven or ridden in a 6.0L Vortex MAX truck though unfortunately so I am strictly going by on paper statistics. On paper anyway the 1500 6.0L MAX trucks should have the edge. A good HEMI driver that gets a launch though might win it. I think the 5.7L HEMI vs the 6.0L Vortec MAX would be one hell of a race. Would be like the old HEMI vs Buick 455 muscle car days when they were so close the race came down to the actual drivers skill, ability to hook up, reaction times, etc... more then the vehicles raw power.
I have driven a lot of Titans and sorry to the guy who posted who owns one but brother you wouldn't want to match that sucker up against a HEMI and run for a pink slip. At least not against someone who knows how to drive. If you do so then keep it to an 1/8 mile track and steer clear of the 1/4 mile and highway for your race. The Titans are "quick" but they are not fast and they fall off fast once the speed gets up there. I see nothing from then that suggests Nissan underrates them power wise. Off the line they are really quick and pull fast but it doesn't take long for a HEMI to catch and pass them. I never lost to a Titan when I had the HEMI. Frankly it was never even close.
Because of how the Titan guys were always bragging about how they would spank HEMI's, and the magazines kept posting faster times( which I had trouble believing ), I went and drove a bunch of them BEFORE matching up against one( hey I am not stupid ). Man was I "unimpressed" to say the least. I drove every cab and 2WD/4WD version and they were a real disappointment based on the bragging and the hype.
Plenty of power and plenty fast but not in the HEMI's league. No offense to you if you like your truck but watch out racing a HEMI if the other guy knows what he is doing because you will lose 99 out of 100 times all factors being equal. I really question those magazine articles most times. They always seem to get some completely different numbers then what goes on in the real world. My HO 5.3L EC Silverado would be a closer and more equal matchup to the Titans I drove.
The V8 Tundras actually are pretty peppy. They aren't quite as big as the other full size trucks and thus the less powerful 4.7L V8 Toyota uses can do more with the truck. Strictly speaking racing they would beat a 5.4L F150 and fall short of the GM 5.3L and Titan 5.6L.
The Ford 5.4L Triton is a real towing workhorse. Makes it's power much lower in the RPM band and thus makes a great engine for a tow and work truck. Racing not so much. My Brother has always been a Ford guy and his last few have had the 5.4L. Man you could pull a tree out of the ground with one of those engines but if it started falling toward the truck you are dead because they can't get out of their own way if you floor it. Not up to the other bigger engines like the HEMI, 5.3L. 5.6L Titan and such. They would even have trouble with the smaller GM 4.8L and Dodge 4.7L if the other driver was more skilled.
The GM 4.8L and the Dodge 4.7L are pretty equal. I had an 03 1500 Ram Quad Cab SLT 4X4 before the HEMI and it had the 4.7L. I test drove quite a few 4.8L GM's before buying my current Chevy and it was pretty equal. They aren't bad engines and both had some pep but no top end and they just wouldn't stand up to the bigger engines out there with the exception maybe of the 5.4L Ford. I actually think a lot of guys who brag about easy HEMI kills( be it with a GM, Nissan, whatever )actually raced a 4.7L Ram not a HEMI. The 4.8L's higher power numbers give it the edge over the 4.7L from Dodge for sure, especially in the lighter GM bodies, but overall it is about the same performance level from the 2 compared to the bigger V8's is my point.
The Ford 4.6L is a DAWG! That thing is an embarrassment to V8 truck engines everywhere. Man a Honda Ridgeline could smoke a 4.6L F150.
Anyway, none of this is to start any kind of war. Just answering the guys question. Hands down the HEMI Ram is the fastest truck out there that isn't a specialty one like the guy brought up( ie; Lightning, Harley Davidson, SRT-10, Joe Gibbs, etc... ). The GM 6.0L 1500 Vortex MAX is the ONE truck that I think can stay with it. or even consistantly beat a HEMI, when all factors are equal. It has the advantage on paper with the power to weight ratio. On paper doesn't always translate to actual real world results though. Wish I could drive one to see then I would know better.
The above post was not mine. He is, however, referring to me as the guy who owns a Titan.