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Old 06-12-2007, 06:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

I went out to start my truck last Friday and nothing. Nada! I figured at 3 years and 60,000 plus miles my battery was toast, so I went to the local battery shop and paid just over $100 for a high amp battery. I didn't think too much about it until this morning when I went out to use the truck and guess what, nothing. Nada.

I pulled the cables off and found that on the positive side there's three cables going through individual fuses, which merge into a single fuse, then another piece is bolted onto that, which goes onto the positive post. The two pieces that the cables go into were both toast. They have lots of copper in them, and the copper was eaten away to nothing, so I wasn't getting good contact.

The two pieces were only around $25, however, the nearest Nissan dealer that had them was about 60 miles away, so it was about $25 worth of fuel to go get them.

This is just to give everyone a heads up. If your truck has no electrical connection it may not be the battery. Check the pieces that go on the end of the positve cables too, and you may save yourself some money.

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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

Thanks Stan. I'd like to replace my battery soon with an Optima Red top unit. I noticed some bad corrosion on the terminals last weekend, so I cleaned them as best I could. BTW, my truck is about 2.5 years old with 37k on it.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

I hear you, truck likes to make lots of crud on the terminals. I've greased the heck of the positive and used baking soda to clean a couple of times, but it just keeps coming back. The wires, like you said, have to be taking a beating. I'll be checking and greasing these tonight.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

Thanks for the info! I'm going to check mine today. I'm right at 3 years 60K.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

great write and info.

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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

And thank you to the lady in the pink shirt.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

I`m waiting for mine to shut down anytime.....This winter will be the end if it lasts that long....My cables look fine, no corrosion...
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

My 04' has about 42k....Just a couple of weeks ago before heading down to Baja for the 500, I thought maybe I better check my factory "Hi-Performance" battery...After all, last place I want to have a no-start is down there...
Sure enough, although it was starting fine(but did seem to crank more then when new) load test revealed a almost dead player...
New battery, and what do you know? Cranks less to start...
Alot of guys are only getting 2-3 yrs, mine made it just over 2-1/2 yrs.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

my 04 only has around 19 on the odometer but i'll be checking my cables...
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

A co-worker has an Altima and the same thing happened to him over the weekend. Left him stranded at the mall. It was the battery.
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

Gasses from the battery will condense on the metal parts which cause corrosion. You might want to consider using Thermoil in the battery. I am using Thermoil on three boat batteries and works well. The product is a battery oil that floats on top of the battery water/electrolyte and helps break up the gas bubbles, minimizing evaporation, moisture, and extends battery life.

Before Thermoil, when I would charge my batteries overnight, the garage would have a sulfuric acid smell in the air. With Thermoil the odor is gone, suggesting that the oil is doing its job by mimizing the gassing. I have also checked my water levels and are maintaining their levels with Thermoil. Without it, they needed to be closely monitored for maximum life.

http://www.thermoilbatteries.com/index.htm
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Re: Dead Battery on an 04 Titan

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I pulled the cables off and found that on the positive side there's three cables going through individual fuses, which merge into a single fuse, then another piece is bolted onto that, which goes onto the positive post. The two pieces that the cables go into were both toast. They have lots of copper in them, and the copper was eaten away to nothing, so I wasn't getting good contact.

The two pieces were only around $25, however, the nearest Nissan dealer that had them was about 60 miles away, so it was about $25 worth of fuel to go get them.

This is just to give everyone a heads up. If your truck has no electrical connection it may not be the battery. Check the pieces that go on the end of the positve cables too, and you may save yourself some money.

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had to go through this same thing just a few months ago. and being i work from 7:30am to 6:30pm it made it d@mn near impossible to get it fixed, not being able to order the parts. anyhow, i ended up buying a new ground cable and the whole positive cable assembly (kinda like one big connected circuit breaker) turns out the ground cable was the culprit and even the new one looked a bit suspect but neverless i installed both new ends. apparently wasn't getting a good charge on the OEM battery and within a few days, hell could have easily BEEN overnight, corrosion set in. the corrosion got so bad it had eaten through half the copper on the positive side through the copper underneath all the plastic. it was so brittle it just cracked right off the positive post on the battery. well, finallly got the cables replaced and instead of taking a chance on the OEM battery again, i said screw it and ponied up for piece of mind. i got an Odyssey PMJ1700 mil-spec battery that fit perfectly in place of the OEM, even comes with reverse-polarity terminals that set-up just like the OEM so attempts of having to stretch the cables were unnecessary!! great thing about the Odyssey battery is there is absolutely 0 gas build up and will not develop acid nor corrosion, so any chances of having this become a recurring problem are nil and void. worth every penny in my opinion and these batteries come highly recommended!!!
better than spiral wound, optima type batteries!

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