Dana's Response about failures - Page 5

Sftail1990 · 04-03-2008, 06:27 PM

Personally the whole response in my opinion was hogwash. This issue has been happening for almost 3 years now. This whole paragraph was lets say shady:

2) Why are there axle assembly failures?

- Each model year has its own issues as there are small design changes, sometimes none between them. Your model year is 2005 for both trucks, I will concentrate on this. You should have the aluminum cover plates on both your axles, which goes directly with the 75W-140 synthetic gear lube implementation, both improving axle sump temperatures and providing a better cover seal. The steel plates had some cover leak issues. Also, from November 2005 and prior, there are some issues with noisy or differential failures (axle assembly internals - include diff case assembly & gearset). Basically, if you have a catastrophic failure, you do need a new axle assembly as the cause is more than likely a carrier housing issue we have found. I suggest getting a post November 2005 axle build date as a replacement, as the issue was fixed then. I have seen a few standard/open differentials break from overload, that is the only other catastrophic issue I have seen. I can not honestly answer what the cause was for overload conditions are, as I am not the driver, I would like to know under what conditions they failed first-hand. As I stated before, wheel seal leaks are still an issue in model year 2005 as well.

This part is extremely full of the BS : I will concentrate on this. You should have the aluminum cover plates on both your axles, which goes directly with the 75W-140 synthetic gear lube implementation, both improving axle sump temperatures and providing a better cover seal. The steel plates had some cover leak issues.

It had nothing to do with better cover seals or any of that, the oil was cooking the paint off the covers for goodness sake. It was nothing to do with seals there at the cover, he also never addresses that silly little thing they call a vent on the axle housing, what a joke it is. Also never said anything about the substandard metal in the spider gears.

This whole rear end issue is a joke and Nissan should hope that it doesn't happen to my 06, it should "supposedly" have all the fixes right? I personally can't see why a class action attorney hasn't been all over this one. Bro in law bought an 04 LE 4x4 supposedly "certified" by Nissan, with all the service records. Even had the rear fluid changed shortly before he bought it. Two months later .......rear end bye bye........... they say they found metal in the rear. Later they said they found water in the fluid too, I asked them well how could that happen, you guys changed it last. They always act like you had to do something to cause this, unlike the real cause that they have a crappy design and materials in the rear.

supertitan · 04-03-2008, 06:52 PM

has anyone had any problems with the front diff?

lrr · 04-04-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by supertitan

has anyone had any problems with the front diff?

I have an 06 with 34k on it and I literally just picked it up an hour ago from having a complete front diff replacement (under warranty). However, the rear is still popping. I had them change the rear diff oil and they said everything is ok. I'm just not sure what the heck it is.

joecamel · 04-13-2008, 08:39 PM

I have a Titan 4x4 LE loaded, just went over 60,000 mile warrenty. I baby my truck, the heaviest thing i carry in it is my 185 lb. body. I dont want to hear" we are working on this problem and you can buy a new an improved model

" Nissan is pissing me off! I will not buy a nissan ever again! I will tell everybody that asks me about my truck its a peice of crap! in my business i come across alot of people that ask questions about my truck, and told them its the best truck ive ever had. Now i feel bad that i put those people that purchased a Titan in this position. If nissan or dana doesnt fix the problem for free- they can both go to hell

Sorry had to vent

matt20 · 04-17-2008, 05:40 AM

Not to beat a dead horse, but I was just taking a gander at the tundra forums.(not that I would ever buy one) A couple of guys there were saying that the diff fluid levels on the titans came really low from the factory. Thus, probably causing overheating and combined with poor ventilation caused the leaky seals and pumpkin explosions.

I will still buy a titan but does anyone know of what I am talking about?

Smoke05 · 04-22-2008, 04:07 PM

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It had nothing to do with better cover seals or any of that, the oil was cooking the paint off the covers for goodness sake. It was nothing to do with seals there at the cover, he also never addresses that silly little thing they call a vent on the axle housing, what a joke it is. Also never said anything about the substandard metal in the spider gears.

Do some more research. The cooking off of paint had was not with the synthetic diff lube. It also occurred in 04 where Nissan issued a TSB stating that some diffs had been underfilled during assembly. Low fluid will cause enough heat to cook paint of the cover.

OCR · 05-21-2008, 05:29 AM

Well I might Jinx myself here but 82k on an 04 4X4 KC with no issues on the rear end.
I have had some other small problems and one major failure but the truck has been a joy to own and I will own another Titan.

The major issue was fixed by Nissan no questions asked. I had a circlip that wasnt seated right in Cylinder #5 and it caused the wrist pin to wear and the piston began slapping the cylinder wall. Nissan stepped up immedietely with an entire new Long Block and I had the truck back to me in under two weeks. That was at 32k miles.

I have had some minor issues: Leaking Trans lines (TSB), brake chatter twice (Fixed w aftermarket rotors) and now the Evap Control Valve and I might need a fuel sending unit to correct my gas guage. I knew I was in for some things as I was buying the first model year.

I am just posting this as I see people being scared off from the Titans and they really are a great truck.

Wiscdave · 05-21-2008, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by hooligan

regardless of what this "caring" tech says or does, the damage is done. what's the rap on the titan? BAD AXLES, DIFFS THAT GRENADE. you can spend all the money you want to improve future products but nothing can be done to repair the damage DANA did to destroy any hopes of a decent reliability rating for the titan. nor did DANA publicly stand up and take the blame on the bad design. rear axle/rear diff issues popped up across the country the FIRST YEAR in 04 and NOTHING was done!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING!!!!! same issues popped up in 05s and 06s, sh!t... still, same issues with 07s!!! WTF??? this Dana-tech dude, may be the nicest guy in the world but as far as i'm concerned its just all sugarcoating!!! F^CK daNA and their crappy-designed 44 for the titan!!!!

RIGHT ON!! NISSAN DID NOTHING AS WELL....just letting all you owners fall out of warranty on your dime.

**TitanGreg06** · 06-02-2008, 09:36 AM

Anyone with 08s having any issues with the diffs? My 06 didn't have any issues but it had trutac and only 30K on it when I traded it. Just wanted to see if Nissan really did fix it in 08 or not.

TallTexan · 06-02-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TitanGreg06

Anyone with 08s having any issues with the diffs? My 06 didn't have any issues but it had trutac and only 30K on it when I traded it. Just wanted to see if Nissan really did fix it in 08 or not.

I have seen 2 posts here about leaky seals on 08's. My dealer told he he had a few repairs on 08 diffs but had no details. I just figured if each dealer had a few, that is quite a percentage with the small number of Titan sold so far.

Shane06fl · 06-02-2008, 12:29 PM

It's all gonna be ok. Dodge will soon be building our trucks and we (Nissan) won't get the blame anymore.

Nissan has this attitude, they don't care IMO. if the did care they would do a recall on the rear ends and brakes. The only reason not to doa recall is becuase they haven't fixed the problem.

My next Titan was to be purchased 2010, not so sure now. I can't stand the thought of owning another Chyrsler product.

Oh well, maybe the Tundra won't be so damn ugly by then.

techiboi · 06-03-2008, 04:18 PM

Hey guys,
I bought my truck in Feb 04, right as they came out. I've had no problems until now.I now have 101 k miles and the other day my neighbor pointed out to me that I have a leak on my rear diff. Sure as day, it was wet with fluid. Scared the crap out of me so I took it to the dealership today.
Fortunately I read about some other members stories about the dealership wanting to replace the whole axle for $3k !!
Sure as day they wanted to charge me that much for a new rear end or $1k to replace the seals.
'kin bull****...
What a ripoff.
Thank you titantalk for this thread.
I know replacing seals is part of the solution. Is there anything else I need to do?

bthelton · 06-03-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by techiboi

Hey guys,
I bought my truck in Feb 04, right as they came out. I've had no problems until now.I now have 101 k miles and the other day my neighbor pointed out to me that I have a leak on my rear diff. Sure as day, it was wet with fluid. Scared the crap out of me so I took it to the dealership today.
Fortunately I read about some other members stories about the dealership wanting to replace the whole axle for $3k !!
Sure as day they wanted to charge me that much for a new rear end or $1k to replace the seals.
'kin bull****...
What a ripoff.
Thank you titantalk for this thread.
I know replacing seals is part of the solution. Is there anything else I need to do?

I thought they were replaced under recall????

RB's Titan · 06-03-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by techiboi

Hey guys,
I bought my truck in Feb 04, right as they came out. I've had no problems until now.I now have 101 k miles and the other day my neighbor pointed out to me that I have a leak on my rear diff. Sure as day, it was wet with fluid. Scared the crap out of me so I took it to the dealership today.
Fortunately I read about some other members stories about the dealership wanting to replace the whole axle for $3k !!
Sure as day they wanted to charge me that much for a new rear end or $1k to replace the seals.
'kin bull****...
What a ripoff.
Thank you titantalk for this thread.
I know replacing seals is part of the solution. Is there anything else I need to do?

Are both leaking is that why they quoted 1K I just did mine seals only for $369 at Baker Jackson. To do a axle kit was $589.

TallTexan · 06-03-2008, 05:47 PM

I would be happy to just stop the clunk-clunk every time I stop and take off. I have installed helper springs that seem to help but eventually it seems to get worse. I have moved the helpers on top of the leafs and on bottom of the leafs, front, back but always seems to help at first, then gradually comes back. Even though my diff has a whine around 50mph, I think my real noise is in the drive line. How do you find the culprit? That is my real problem.