Somebody Explain VDS To Me

[nick b]

Can somebody explain in simple English what VDC is and how it works? Does it help you off road? TIA, Nick

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by nick b

Can somebody explain in simple English what VDS is and how it works? Does it help you off road? TIA, Nick

I beleive you are referring to VDC. It is Vehicle Dynamic Control. What it does is if the vehicle is starting to slide, it applies breaking control to selected tires to stop the slide. It creates the effect of stearing into the slide.

Only it is no longer available with the off road package, as the e-locker to lock both rear tires together is now part of that package. The big tow package is the only one that contains the VDC. That gives you also the ABLS, Active BREAK Limited Slip. Which applies breaking force to the slipping wheel transferring power to the other wheel.

Hope that helps

[JerseyDirt]

Originally Posted by Doghouse

Only it [VDC]is no longer available with the off road package, as the e-locker to lock both rear tires together is now part of that package. Hope that helps

Why on earth would Nissan not package VDC with the off road package? The e-locker would not interfere with VDC. It has to be manually activated and only works in 4WD low. How would that affect VDC during normal driving conditions? this rant was directed at Nissan, not Doghouse

[Doghouse]

Originally Posted by JerseyDirt

Why on earth would Nissan not package VDC with the off road package? The e-locker would not interfere with VDC. It has to be manually activated and only works in 4WD low. How would that affect VDC during normal driving conditions? this rant was directed at Nissan, not Doghouse

None taken, thanks for the app in front.

You know what they say about infinite wisdom. I have no idea. I am glad I got mine before the e-locker came out now. That was a major debate point. I find the VDC much more important than the E-locker for how I use the truck.

[JerseyDirt]

Originally Posted by Doghouse

I find the VDC much more important than the E-locker for how I use the truck.

I bet thats the case for most people which is why it makes absolutely no sense for Nissan to remove the VDC from the big-tow pkg instead of removing the e-locker from the offroad pkg. But I digress; the sensible solution is for NISSAN TO OFFER BOTH, DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!

[outahere]

Originally Posted by JerseyDirt

But I digress; the sensible solution is for NISSAN TO OFFER BOTH, DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!

Maybe Nissan will come to their senses and offer both on the 2005 model. Seems to me it is a software issue rather than a hardware issue.

[Slick50]

So, is it the consensus here that no technical reason exists to prevent the two (elocker and VDC) to co-exist? I do understand why it should be OK in general, unless Nissan had to make some "risk management" decision not to use both. It does seem that the VDC is the most beneficial for most applications.

[JerseyDirt]

Originally Posted by Slick50

So, is it the consensus here that no technical reason exists to prevent the two (elocker and VDC) to co-exist? I do understand why it should be OK in general, unless Nissan had to make some "risk management" decision not to use both. It does seem that the VDC is the most beneficial for most applications.

I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that is in fact the consensus. Even without a software update whcih would de-activate VDC when the e-locker was engaged the two could co-exist. The worst case scenario is that the VDC would not be effective if left on in 4WD low with the e-locker engaged. The Titan already has a button to de-activate the VDC so we know that it can be turned off. Now all you need is a software update which would automatically disenage VDC upon engagement of the e-locker.

JD

[keane]

I think for a vast majority of people, the e-locker is something that might get used the odd time, if ever, where the VDC is much more beneficial. I can really see Nissan losing off-road package sales. It would make more sense for most people to choose the big tow and then buy the tires and shocks (and maybe skid plates) after. The e-locker just really isn't necessary for all but the hardcore

[PHOEBISIS]

My salesperson said that there would be 2 different offroad pks.I wanted to get side curtain airbags and VDC in a SE.It looked like this was impossible,since curtains in the SE required Offroad pk(and 4 other packages),which sucks.She insists there are 2 offroad pks,one with E and one without.I don't know if this is true,but she was convinced of it.Charlie

[bwalkertitan]

Originally Posted by Doghouse

I beleive you are referring to VDC. It is Vehicle Dynamic Control. What it does is if the vehicle is starting to slide, it applies breaking control to selected tires to stop the slide. It creates the effect of stearing into the slide.

Only it is no longer available with the off road package, as the e-locker to lock both rear tires together is now part of that package. The big tow package is the only one that contains the VDC. That gives you also the ABLS, Active BREAK Limited Slip. Which applies breaking force to the slipping wheel transferring power to the other wheel.

Hope that helps

It also cuts power power doesn't it?

[bluesun]

You can easily see how the VDC works by driving on a rainy day. You simply can't swing the tail at all. Now with a powerfull pickup with rear wheels driving, should be easy. But as soon as it starts to swing, you'll feel it kick in and you'll be driving straight. Also, when you pull out in front of traffic and floor it, sometimes the other part kicks in (anti slip) which brakes the wheel and limits engine power. This is really exciting when you have pulled out in traffic. Much prefer some wheel slip and some get up and go...sigh.

The system on the BMW 5 series is much less intrusive, as would be expected. Why would you through a pickup around like that anyway.....

[Austin]

Originally Posted by Doghouse

I beleive you are referring to VDC. It is Vehicle Dynamic Control. What it does is if the vehicle is starting to slide, it applies breaking control to selected tires to stop the slide. It creates the effect of stearing into the slide.

Only it is no longer available with the off road package, as the e-locker to lock both rear tires together is now part of that package. The big tow package is the only one that contains the VDC. That gives you also the ABLS, Active BREAK Limited Slip. Which applies breaking force to the slipping wheel transferring power to the other wheel.

Hope that helps

VDC also has the ability to decrease engine output, in addition to braking selected wheels.

ABLS is standard equipment on all trucks. 4x2 models have ABLS only in the rear (obviously) and 4x4 models have ABLS front and rear.