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Old 05-29-2004, 09:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tornado fuel saver

i was wondering if anyone here has put that tornado fuel saver on their truck if so what kind of performance did you get and how much of a better gas milage did you get. or any one try it on a different car. i've heard good things about this product but i wanted more info
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Its a gimmick. They were even sued in the US over claims.

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Old 05-29-2004, 11:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i was wondering if anyone here has put that tornado fuel saver on their truck if so what kind of performance did you get and how much of a better gas milage did you get. or any one try it on a different car. i've heard good things about this product but i wanted more info
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Yeah, I saw an independent study not paid for by that company and when they did dynos it actually cut performance and fuel efficiency by more then 5%. On some there was an increase but only around 2-3%. You can get more performance by just dropping in a k&n filter in stock housing.

In an another test this is what was mentioned:
The United States EPA has not tested the Tornado Fuel Saver, but after testing more than 100 similar products --including the Cyclone and the Dynamix, the EPA says it "has not found any product that significantly improves gas mileage."

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Also whats Nissan gonna say when the mighty 5.6L sucks the tornado into the engine, in time it will fail as all components eventually do and you can bet the warranty will be voided.
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Also whats Nissan gonna say when the mighty 5.6L sucks the tornado into the engine, in time it will fail as all components eventually do and you can bet the warranty will be voided.
There is another thread around here somewhere about the Tornado, so I'll repeat here what I said there:

The tornado is a passive device that uses energy created by intake suction to "spin" the intake charge. Supposedly, this is to increase atomization of the fuel. Here's the problems:

1. No way is this thing gonna atomize fuel better than a computer and fuel injection with zillions of R&D dollars behind it.

2. The "spinning" action is counter to what you want from the perspective of volumetric efficiency. You want laminar flow of your intake charge, and this "stirring" probably introduces turbulence. If you look at a "tornado", the matter in the center of the vortex will be spinning faster than the matter on the outside of the vortex. Also, remember that the energy used to spin the intake charge has to come from somewhere - your engine.

This adds up to a likely DROP in gas mileage and output.

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Also the fuel injectors do a pretty darn good job of atomizing the fuel, i'd wouldn't be suprised if the minimal vortex given by the "tornado" is lost by the time the air charge makes it to the intake valves. The intake stroke is going to act on the air charge in a much more powerful way than this passive cheesy component could ever dream of. If thats the case the "tornado" turns into a restriction and liability in the intake tract. Its like they say if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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hey guys,

In my f-150, I've got an in-line fuel magnetizer. By simply pollarizing the gas molecules, it causes the burn process to be much more efficient! Great item, it only cost about $15, weighs only a few ounces, is easy to install. Sure, its got nothing on the tornado, but I'm only talking about a 15-20% mileage improvement, not 50% like the tornado must have.

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Its all snake oil. You have injectors, THEY are what atomize your fuel. More importantly, by the time the air gets to the fuel through the intake, there is no way in hell it can possible still have an air 'structure' to it. The ONLY thing you can do is make your air colder, that will help with performance, etc.


As for the magnet thing, i think thats snake oil too. I have yet to understand how a magnet 'polarizes' a LIQUID whose primary chemical formula contains no iron and is completely non-conductive. And if it could, i don't see how it could polarize a mass of long hydrogen/carbon strings as they pass by a relatively small magnet.

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Don't even think about putting one of those things on your truck. Not only do they not work, not only do they actually decrease performance, but they can be harmful to your engine.

We are in the production engine rebuilding business and have seen first hand what happens when "pieces/parts" of the Tornado come apart and get sucked into the intake. It ain't pretty and it is expensive.

I have maintained contact with an engine engineer in the Nissan engine plant in Tennessee where our engines are built. I cannot disclose his identity, but here is part of an e-mail he sent me when we were having a more general discussion about aftermarket mods for this engine:

"I know one thing not to do, We had a motor blow up, I think in california, and when it was torn down, they found pieces of those "tornado things" that go into the air intake. When they found this, it voided the warranty. I'm not sure if the customer had to pay for the repairs or Nissan covered it anway for Public Relations, but I was told that our plant refused to honor any warranty on it."

Just a word to the wise. The science does not support any benefit, and the downside could be very, very bad.
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Hey if i stick a hair dryer on my intake can i increase HP? LOL KIDDING GUYS Couldnt resist.

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Just another pointless thread about a product that has been mentioned probably 100 times already on here.
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Hey if i stick a hair dryer on my intake can i increase HP? LOL KIDDING GUYS Couldnt resist.

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No, but running liquified air might help!!!!!!
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