Are they safe???

[Copperhead]

I don't care about my personal saftey. But I damn sure don't want harm to come to my passengers! Light-weight adults apperently don't always engauge the airbag sensors?? I'll be transporting girls.. and some of which don't even weigh 120lbs! ...I wont purchase this vehicle if passenger lives depend upon a half-faulty sensor! ..that simple.

So is this a common problem or what? I know this has been covered before.

Brent

..After reading titanclub.org.. it's happened to that guy, and others, by reading the complaints. -> http://www.titanclub.org/odi/

[Copperhead]

..When I say girls, I mean occupants around the age of 20years old.

Brent

[nopropslaw]

I as well am concerned about this. I haven't noticed a problem yet but I will be testing it today

[altima98]

For me it wouldn't be a show stopper, there is always the back seat. And maybe they can strap on two 13 pound bowling balls to be on the safe side.

See what happens you try to make something smarter and it bites you in the ***....... Nissan Keep it simple stupid.

[1Titan]

If you have done the searching on all Titan forums for airbag sensor problems only you can determine if it is a common enough problem to warrant you not getting one. No one here is going to tell you it's a "common" problem. However the "problem" has occurred on several vehicles. Considering the size of this forum and others versus the problems w/sensors I think you would be able to determine on your own if it is "common" or not.

[Copperhead]

Now it's not my intention to anger Titan owners. My intention is to get a vehicle that can gaurentee saftey (something this important [saftey] shouldn't be causing problems for ANY Titan users). If this upsets you, so be it.

I've always enjoyed Datsun/Nissans. This day in age, technology is very advanced. If Nissan cannot use technology to gaurentee saftey............

I'm just seeing what you guys think of this problem.

Thanks again.. and once again.. don't be angry.

Brent

[EWA Titan]

Look at the crash test results. Dont look at the airbag, look at the integrity of the cab. That cannot be changed by a sensor. You should be wearing a seatbelt anyway. An airbag is not this magical device sent down by god to save the occupant. In the unlikley event that it fails your beter off in this truck than whatever your about to hit.
Its a simple test, have a light person sit in the seat, if it goes off your golden. Also remember, there is a reason why an airbag is not recomended for a small person. How many children have died due to passenger side airbags. Ask Ford.

[GemInI]

Originally Posted by EWA Titan

Its a simple test, have a light person sit in the seat, if it goes off your golden.

That's what I was going to suggest. Bring your would be passengers with you to the dealership and try it out. My wife is a size 3 and the sensor never fails when she sits shotgun.

[PHOEBISIS]

I read Stevemis's postings on the airbag,and was concerned enough to check mine.I used weight plates,but I put some stiff foam about the size of a butt on the seat 1st and put the weights on that to get the weight spread out like a human's weight would be(stiffer than wrestling mats).It tested out at between 55 and 65 lbs.Mine would work fine.Now a very long legged person who rested a lot of weight on her-his-feet and pushed back into the seat might be only about 75% of their true weight,but it would still work fine at as low as 85-90 lbs.
This is probably a rare problem,but of course,test it 1st as was suggested above.
EWA TITAN mentioned that the Titan did very well on the insurance institute offset crash test-the toughest test-tougher than the Fed frontal test.A passenger in the front seat with the seatbelt on,and with the seat pushed back so her head wouldn't hit the dash would probably be safer in a frontal crash in a Titan(without the airbag) than in 90% of the cars out there with airbags because of the way the cab didn't "crush and smush" and because of the size of the Titan.Luck,Charlie PS Obviously I am just guessing on the 90%,but the structural integrity was very good.

[rvandam]

having my ten-year old daughter in the front seat. Wouldn't worry about 20-year olds. From what I have read here and elsewehre, this is NOT a common problem. And, as others stated, very easy to test before purchase.

[Titan4x4Aggie]

i've got a tenative date set on sunday with a cute girl that's like 5'4" and she can't weight more than 115 lbs.

i'll test mine out. but if i'm good, she wont be in that seat; she'll be in the middle, sitting next to me, with my arm around her.

seriously, not really, that's wouldn't be safe on a first date. she'll be riding shotgun, and we'll see if it arms the airbag.

if not, i'm not going to worry. like PHOEBISIS said, this is a huge vehicle. it will take a huge force to slow it down. and since newton's 3rd law of motion is in effect (for every action, there is an equal and opposite reation), whatever force a car applies on the titan, the titan will apply to the other car. the other car will be the one to absorb most of the inpact as it deflects, so the harsh decelleration associated with a wreck shouldn't be so bad.

this truck has a five star frontal crash test rating, and the frontal wrecks are the ones where you need an air bad. this truck is bigger, stronger, and heavier than my last car (87 mazda rx-7, which had no airbags). even if this truck had no airbags, i would have bought it.

[BigRedTitan]

My airbag works sensor works perfectly. But like others have said, I would have bought the Titan even without airbags. It has GREAT crash test results and is a big vehicle. I wouldn't let this be the deciding factor for buying/ not buying this great truck. Drive it and the others and see which one outshines the others.
We all know that it is the TITAN.

[stevemis]

We tested this on multiple Titans. None recognized my 132 pound wife, who is now down to 127 pounds. The test vehicles included leather and cloth captain's chairs and leather and cloth bench seats.

This was one of Nissan's reasons for calling our problem "NORMAL OPERATION".

If you're strongly considering a Titan, get a 24 hour test drive. Have everyone you know between 100 and 150 pounds sit in the passenger seat and try it out. I would not mention what you are testing or why.. people may think more about sitting and sit differently.

To test my theory about this, walk up or down a flight of stairs and watch your feet. Think about the mechanics of what you're doing while you're doing it. Hold the handrail, because you're going to trip.

Regarding statements about the airbags not being important due to structural integrity of the vehicle: Completely false. In a serious crash, there is a very strong possibility of your head hitting the steering wheel or the dashboard, hence the airbags. This chance increases significantly if the seatbelt pretensioners do not activate. The seatbelt pretensioners are part of the airbag sensor system (sensing rapid deceleration) and actually tighten the grip of the seatbelt milliseconds before the impact of the crash reaches the cab. I am not certain if the pretensioner system for the passenger seat is always active, or if the seat sensor must detect an occupant there.

-Steve

[Titan4x4Aggie]

yes, but if the pretensioners fail there is still a mechanical system based on intertia that causes the belts to lock up when the belt restraining rolls rotate quickly.

and if you are properly wearing your set belt, you SHOULD NOT hit the steering wheel, air bags and pretensioners or not.

[ßaller]

No vehicle can "guarantee safety." If you are going to get caught up in a situation that is remote, then you should NOT get this vehicle.

Why don't you go get that rugged Tacoma, it fell off a cliff and it was still intact. You will most likely be safe in that truck. A Blonde Friend-Girl of mine told me that!



- ßaller