Nissan Diesel

[Howzit]

Another week on my Diesel crusade...

Check out the Nissan Frontier Diesel: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...ticleId=230823

While the rest of the world makes use of it we are left to wait until 2007 when low sulphur Diesel is mandated in the US. So the excuse go. However, currently Ford has the amazing International 6.0L V8 Powerstoke, Dodge the potent Cummings I6 and GM the renowned Isuzu Duramax Diesels in their H/D pickup trucks.

Also, check out the following:

Isuzu: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...icleId=2128852
Mitsubishi: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...ticleId=228704
BMW: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...751&fSetId=381

The BMW will make you rethink any objections to a Diesel in a passenger vehicle.

According to Nissan USA, they are waiting to see how the TITAN sells here before introducing the Diesel.

[PHOEBISIS]

I'm also interested in Diesels-for the better mpg.They can keep that one just where it is.It got just 20.9 mpg hy(just 18 in mixed driving) and made 140 hp according to the article(18 sec 0-62 mph also).Sure hope they can do better than that-it is a noisy pig.The Titan can get 19 hy right now,and it is a lot heavier(I guess)than the hardbody.Luck,Charlie

[COTitan]

I am going to buy a late 04 half ton for now and as soon as the diesel comes out i will buy a 3/4 ton. If it is good i hope to be lifetime nissan diesel buyer. So someone who is 24 might buy 6-7 of them in my lifetime plus a service fleet for work of hundreds. So i hope nissan is reading this board

[Howzit]

Read the articles as a whole. The Nissan represents old technology whilst the Isuzu and BMW the new.

The BMW stats are impressive with a top speed of 148mph and a fuel consumption of 37.6mpg. Here in the US today, Mercedes-Benz E320 CDi I6 gets 27/35mpg and the Jeep Liberty CDi I4 25/30mpg. The Jeep uses the Mercedes 2.8L common rail turbo diesel inline four.

Yes, the Nissan's 21/24mpg is unimpressive but wait until they deliver a new technology Diesel.

One only has to look at what Nissan achieved with it's first V8 Endurance gas engine and what Mercedes has achieved with it's Common Rail Diesel and I for one am excited.

If only Nissan and the American buying public could get as excited.

[HDRocketman]

My wife's New Beetle turbo diesel dials in at 46 - 48 highway, and 50 in town... ??? According to VW, it was designed with some kind of new technology, not sure just what.

[Howzit]

Gotta love it when someone post figures like that. 50mpg and it's not even a hybrid!

The new technology is all about high pressure, (+30 000 PSI) engines. What makes them so economical, compared to gas engines, is that air is not mixed with gasoline prior to ignition. Eliminating sensors and elaborate mixing. In a Diesel the air is compressed and at maximum compression a little bit of Diesel is injected. The heat from the compressed air ignites the Diesel hence no spark plug. Need more compression, add a turbo, inject less fuel, and so it goes. Gasoline engines have reached their maximum capabilities but Diesel still has a way to go. 100mpg will be here sooner than you think.

VW uses a separate high pressure injector for each cylinder whilst Mercedes a single common rail that feeds to all the cylinders. Both use turbos to increase the compression and intercoolers to cool the heated gas.

Nissan needs to get with a supplier, like Cummings, International, or Isuzu, and get with it.
Hey, Nissan, see if BMW are interested!

[jauten1]

http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/hond...echo=976640743

[mudslinggintitan04]

they gotta put a powerstroke in it, uhh, nuthin beats a ol banks turboed powerstroke!

[HudsonValleyTitan]

Originally Posted by Howzit

Another week on my Diesel crusade...

Check out the Nissan Frontier Diesel: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...ticleId=230823

While the rest of the world makes use of it we are left to wait until 2007 when low sulphur Diesel is mandated in the US. So the excuse go. However, currently Ford has the amazing International 6.0L V8 Powerstoke, Dodge the potent Cummings I6 and GM the renowned Isuzu Duramax Diesels in their H/D pickup trucks.

Also, check out the following:

Isuzu: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...icleId=2128852
Mitsubishi: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...ticleId=228704
BMW: http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...751&fSetId=381

The BMW will make you rethink any objections to a Diesel in a passenger vehicle.

According to Nissan USA, they are waiting to see how the TITAN sells here before introducing the Diesel.

It's pretty simple. Gas here is MUCH cheaper than the rest of the free world. Diesel is a nessecity for them. There's no need for s Diesel 1/4 ton truck here. It may be wanted by some...why?...lol...no idea, but some folks just want what they can't have for some odd reason. Diesel fuel here is expensive and the slight mileage difference doesn't outweigh the price. 1/2 tons also don't need a big torquy Diesel but could make better use of one than a little 1/4 ton.

[CraigG]

I like the deisel idea but they come with a price tag for me. 1)they are expensive, 2) loud as hell, 3) they all burn leak or drip oil at some point, 4) deisel has been more expensive than the good gas. 5)Deisels HATE the cold. Now I am still interested in a deisel because 1) Deisels are more fuel efficent. 2) Bio deisel is the wave of the future IMHO veggie oil baby. 3) A deisel will take ALOT more abuse than a gas engine will and still ask for more. 4) I think alot more advancement can be made with a TD than a gasser engine 5)deisel costs 1/2 as much to make than gas they get 2:1 deisel to gas and in reallity it should be 1/2 the price as well but they choose to up its price to offsett the price of gasaline which mostly everyone is using. I am very interested to find out how this bio-deisel turns out.

[Yomama]

Diesel is a by product of refining gasoline.....

[HudsonValleyTitan]

Originally Posted by Yomama

Diesel is a by product of refining gasoline.....

It's a by product of refining crude oil to make gasoline. Gasoline is far more refined, which is why Diesel should be way cheaper than regular gasoline.

[gonzo]

Actually, distillation from crude oil creates many products in a continuous process. Think of it this way:

Crude oil enters at the bottom of a long pipe and is heated. As it travels up the pipe, it becomes lighter. So if you siphon it off at a lower level, you get kerosene and diesel. A little higher and you get gasoline. Higher still, and you get lighter distilates. So in order to make gasoline, you in effect are not siphoning off the distilate result until it "passes" the diesel point. All gasoline that is produced counld technically be siphoned off as diesel. Therefore it is cheaper (requires less energy) to produce diesel.

[MuskyHunter]

Bio deisel is the wave of the future IMHO

I agree, but not the "Bio Diesel" that I would like to see. I wish there was some way to develop a fuel from human waste (waste water treatment plants). There is never a shortage of that stuff.

[MuskyHunter]

Work in progress:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/768672.stm

http://exploration.nasa.gov/articles...enot_lite.html