I usually trade every three years anyway, soooo I would seriously consider buying the diesel. I would be eating my words though B/C I have stated I would never own one. But that was before Nissan entered the market.
LOL, I said that I would never own a pickup, but look at me now. My Neighbor his a Ford Diesel its very nice, he must have done somthing to it, because the turbo is loud when it spools up.
A diesel in a Titan would, for me, need to be an inexpensive upgrade and a large boost in performance. Diesels seem to get somewhat better mileage but if it is like the powerstoke, a $3000 option, it would need to get about 30 MPG to make it worthwhile in my opinion.
Diesel? No thanks. If I wanted a truck that sounded like a dryer full of marbes, I'd have bought a Silverado. Our trucks pull more than fine for my use.
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NEW - 2008 Blizzard Titan CC PRO-4X OFF ROAD LWB w/TOW, UB & RF pkgs w/XM & Bluetooth handsfree, Nissan bug deflector, Under seat storage box, Nissan factory step rails, Volant LED taillights, Recons Line Of Fire LED Light Bar, Nissans chrome Door Handles & tow mirror covers, Nissans chrome Tailgate bib, TomTom GO 700 GPS, Extang Tuff Tonno Cover.
OLD - 2004 White Titan 4X4 CC SE BT, UB, OR
Hudson Valley area of BEAUTIFUL upstate NY!
I work for a construction company that has a fleet of about 400 1/2 and 3/4 trucks (all Fords), and diesels just don't pencil out in fuel economy versus the added upfront cost for typical use. Their analysis is based on a 150k mile turnover. The only diesels in the fleet are dedicated to towing.
I can't think of a current diesel powerplant that does NOT have a turbo. A 21-24 MPG Turbo Diesel Titan would be awesome.
I owned a used 2000 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins for about a year and WOW! That Cummins inline 6-cylinder powerplant is awesome. Step on the gas and it moves! Loved the mileage as well. I remember I towed a Sea-Doo plus a bed full of camping gear from the LA area to Laughlin Nevada and getting 21.4 mpg doing 75 mph. The truck never even felt the inclines on the freeway because of the massive amount of torque. You have to drive one and experience the torque yourself to be a diesel fanatic. If members have some free time I would recommend test driving a Dodge Ram with a Cummins powerplant just for kicks and giggles. If you drive your Titan to the Dodge dealer be prepared to hold back on making an offer using your Titan as a trade in! Yes, the Cummins powerplant is that awesome.
I prefer the inline 6 cylinder simplicity of the 5.9L Cummins over the more complicated Ford PowerStroke V8 or the Chevrolet DuraMax V8. The new Dodge diesels are also much quieter than the model I had. Dodge stuffed a bunch of noise insulation under the hood to quiet down the diesel clatter.
I would have considered purchasing a Cummins powered Dodge Ram QC over the Titan CC if the price difference wasn't so great. Even after major discounting a new Cummins powered Ram would cost around $33K. I know this is a Titan owner forum, but knowing you can easily get 300-500K miles out of a Cummins diesel before a rebuild is pretty cool!
I can't think of a current diesel powerplant that does NOT have a turbo. A 21-24 MPG Turbo Diesel Titan would be awesome.
I owned a used 2000 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins for about a year and WOW! That Cummins inline 6-cylinder powerplant is awesome. Step on the gas and it moves! Loved the mileage as well. I remember I towed a Sea-Doo plus a bed full of camping gear from the LA area to Laughlin Nevada and getting 21.4 mpg doing 75 mph. The truck never even felt the inclines on the freeway because of the massive amount of torque. You have to drive one and experience the torque yourself to be a diesel fanatic. If members have some free time I would recommend test driving a Dodge Ram with a Cummins powerplant just for kicks and giggles. If you drive your Titan to the Dodge dealer be prepared to hold back on making an offer using your Titan as a trade in! Yes, the Cummins powerplant is that awesome.
I prefer the inline 6 cylinder simplicity of the 5.9L Cummins over the more complicated Ford PowerStroke V8 or the Chevrolet DuraMax V8. The new Dodge diesels are also much quieter than the model I had. Dodge stuffed a bunch of noise insulation under the hood to quiet down the diesel clatter.
I would have considered purchasing a Cummins powered Dodge Ram QC over the Titan CC if the price difference wasn't so great. Even after major discounting a new Cummins powered Ram would cost around $33K. I know this is a Titan owner forum, but knowing you can easily get 300-500K miles out of a Cummins diesel before a rebuild is pretty cool!
I have no idea what you drove, but I've driven my neighbor/friends 03 Dodge 2500 Cummins numerous times towing and non-towing and yes, it has the torque to tow anything anywhere, but aside from towing, it can't get out of it's own way without tripping. So if towing a heavy load often is what you do, you can't beat a good Diesel. Otherwise, I'd stick to a good beefy gas V8. Just my opinion I guess.
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- Joe
NEW - 2008 Blizzard Titan CC PRO-4X OFF ROAD LWB w/TOW, UB & RF pkgs w/XM & Bluetooth handsfree, Nissan bug deflector, Under seat storage box, Nissan factory step rails, Volant LED taillights, Recons Line Of Fire LED Light Bar, Nissans chrome Door Handles & tow mirror covers, Nissans chrome Tailgate bib, TomTom GO 700 GPS, Extang Tuff Tonno Cover.
OLD - 2004 White Titan 4X4 CC SE BT, UB, OR
Hudson Valley area of BEAUTIFUL upstate NY!
I have no idea what you drove, but I've driven my neighbor/friends 03 Dodge 2500 Cummins numerous times towing and non-towing and yes, it has the torque to tow anything anywhere, but aside from towing, it can't get out of it's own way without tripping. So if towing a heavy load often is what you do, you can't beat a good Diesel. Otherwise, I'd stick to a good beefy gas V8. Just my opinion I guess.
A cummins with a programmer, exhaust and intake will beat our titans with ease. My friend removed his muffler and did some intake work and his is very fast, and gets well over 20 mpg.
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This Caterpillar 7.2L In line 6 would also be awesome in the Titan. I am surprised none of the Big 3 have an exclusive deal with Cat to supply diesels for their full size pick up trucks. Stick a nice "Caterpillar" logo on the front doors, fenders, and tailgate, and watch hard core diesel pick up truck buyers flock to purchase one!
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Cylinders In-Line 6
Bore/Stroke 4.33 x 5.00 (110mm x 127mm)
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