Nissan Diesel - Page 3

todd92 · 05-14-2006, 11:29 AM

Why would Nissan use an International or Caterpillar engine when they already make the right engine themselves?

helomech · 05-14-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ewxlt

Where exactly?

Here in SoCal, diesel is more expensive than premium.

Deisel is cheaper than 87 octane here, and has been for quite a while. It is running 10 -15 cents cheaper.

helomech · 05-14-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by todd92

Why would Nissan use an International or Caterpillar engine when they already make the right engine themselves?

Name recognition. Not that many people know that nissan makes some great diesel engines.

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 05-14-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by helomech

A cummins with a programmer, exhaust and intake will beat our titans with ease. My friend removed his muffler and did some intake work and his is very fast, and gets well over 20 mpg.

Maybe with a lot of work but, stock Diesels are slow, long-haul pullers. It would take a lot more than just an exhaust, simple ECU programmer and intake to get one of those bohemoths to do a 6.9 0-60 but anything's possible with enough $$$. My experience was with a stock 03 Cummins CC 4X4. Never drove one all done up.

Aquaholic · 05-14-2006, 06:59 PM

I already want to trade to get big tow and 4x4. Diesel power would push me over the edge and have me rollin in an 07

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 05-14-2006, 08:05 PM

AND.....I don't want to imagine what a Diesel Titan would cost. I bet it would START around 35g.

Waterfowler · 05-15-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MINI2NUT

This Caterpillar 7.2L In line 6 would also be awesome in the Titan. I am surprised none of the Big 3 have an exclusive deal with Cat to supply diesels for their full size pick up trucks. Stick a nice "Caterpillar" logo on the front doors, fenders, and tailgate, and watch hard core diesel pick up truck buyers flock to purchase one!

C7 7.2L Mid-Range Engine: Pure Value
Maximum Mid-Range Versatility

Superior durability based on proven 3126E components
A new Caterpillar® built HEUI oil pump, along with Cat exclusive "leak-free" technology, provide unsurpassed reliability
Lower emissions and decreased engine noise from Caterpillar patented HEUI™ fuel system
Enhanced performance from electronic wastegate-controlled turbocharger
The C7 on-highway engine continues the tradition of bottom-line value. A wide range of horsepower ratings—all the way up to 330 hp for fire trucks and RVs -- ensures a perfect fit for a variety of applications. This engine features the Caterpillar HEUI fuel system for unsurpassed performance and reliability. Full electronic controls include features typically found only on heavy duty engines. Both front and rear power take-off (PTO) options are available to fit your specific application.The C7 is a sophisticated mid-range engine suitable for a wide variety of vocational applications, from construction and utility jobs to pick-up and delivery, School Bus, RV and emergency vehicles.

Specifications
Cylinders In-Line 6
Bore/Stroke 4.33 x 5.00 (110mm x 127mm)
Displacement 7.2 L (441 cu in)
Weight 1295 lb (588 kg)
Horsepower 190 to 350 @ 2400 rpm
Torque 520-860 lb-ft @ 1440 rpm

Ehh screw the Cat. They are very reliable, but they are almost always very heavy, very expensive, and replacement parts are an arm and a leg. Ii'd like to see a Cummins in the Nissan.

The chipped up Duramaxes and Powerstrokes are just as fast or faster than the Titan, so I don't know what's with all this talk about people are saying they are slow.

MANTION · 05-15-2006, 11:35 AM

How many lick to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop? How many post before nissan comes out with a diesel titan?

Bhudda454 · 05-15-2006, 11:55 AM

I will give Nissan another year to come up with official release of the TItan diesel. After that, if no real word from them I will be in a Dodge with the cummins. 87octane here is at the cheapest 2.87, where diesel is 2.77. Now you factor in the current 10% ethanol blend which will soon be at 15%, and the mileage is about to get stupid. I went from 17MPG or so to 15MPG at 10%. The newer cummins anyway, are lickety split as it is, you tweak and they get scary.

Bear Hunter · 05-15-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HudsonValleyTitan

Maybe with a lot of work but, stock Diesels are slow, long-haul pullers. It would take a lot more than just an exhaust, simple ECU programmer and intake to get one of those bohemoths to do a 6.9 0-60 but anything's possible with enough $$$. My experience was with a stock 03 Cummins CC 4X4. Never drove one all done up.

Joe,

Gonna have to disagree with you....

Here is a buddy of mine's 6.0 with just a tuner, intake, and exhaust (about 425 HP to the ground). Believe me it gets out of its own way....and a lot of others on the street much to their dismay

http://www.v6f150.com/unbrokendonut.wmv

He has now surpassed just the tuner and is pushing over 500 HP to the ground.

GraniteKing · 05-15-2006, 02:05 PM

i'll stick with my gaser...

Toxman · 05-15-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhudda454

I will give Nissan another year to come up with official release of the TItan diesel. After that, if no real word from them I will be in a Dodge with the cummins. 87octane here is at the cheapest 2.87, where diesel is 2.77. Now you factor in the current 10% ethanol blend which will soon be at 15%, and the mileage is about to get stupid. I went from 17MPG or so to 15MPG at 10%. The newer cummins anyway, are lickety split as it is, you tweak and they get scary.

It's due out in 09 which means you likely will not see them until late 08. Good luck with the Dodge!

Toxman · 05-15-2006, 03:01 PM

[quote=Bhudda454 Now you factor in the current 10% ethanol blend which will soon be at 15%, and the mileage is about to get stupid.[/quote]

15% ethanol? I thought basic engines were only approved for up to 10%.

bum76 · 05-15-2006, 05:10 PM

no way my titan has enough power as is if a gas powerd truck can tow 9,000 lbs. why waste your time with a diesel and the smell....

**HudsonValleyTitan** · 05-15-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bear Hunter

Joe,

Gonna have to disagree with you....

Here is a buddy of mine's 6.0 with just a tuner, intake, and exhaust (about 425 HP to the ground). Believe me it gets out of its own way....and a lot of others on the street much to their dismay

http://www.v6f150.com/unbrokendonut.wmv

He has now surpassed just the tuner and is pushing over 500 HP to the ground.

Very nice! But They just don't rev fast enough to put the HP to the ground like a gas V8 does. Very high torque makes them easy to smoke the wheels by brake standing but side by side, the Titan will be up to 60 before that truck would hit 40...they just don't rev fast enough. All that torque will do is break the tires loose. Now once moving, it would probably fly. Any idea what that trucks speed numbers are? I bet they're not 7.0 to 60. Thanks again, cool vid.