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#1 (permalink) Old 09-12-2004, 05:57 PM
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I put my off road bike in the bed and it just sticks over the tailgate, so I must leave it down. I also tow my popup camper at the same time. Unfortunately, the handle and tube that raises and lowers the forward wheel on the popup is only about an inch from the tailgate. When I back up it inevitably smashes the plastic on the top of the tailgate or on the plastic faceplate on the tailgate. I'm talking some big ugly gouges. Anyone else have this problem? Anyway to prevent it?

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I put my off road bike in the bed and it just sticks over the tailgate, so I must leave it down. I also tow my popup camper at the same time. Unfortunately, the handle and tube that raises and lowers the forward wheel on the popup is only about an inch from the tailgate. When I back up it inevitably smashes the plastic on the top of the tailgate or on the plastic faceplate on the tailgate. I'm talking some big ugly gouges. Anyone else have this problem? Anyway to prevent it?
Motoman,

I had a Ram pickup and accidentally left the gate down while towing my trailer.

Talk about an expensive mistake... $450 and a tailgate later I now always remember to put the gate up.

What happened: The trailer jack clears just fine when you're driving straight. Go around a corner and the geometry of the hitch and truck dictate that the gate will smash into the jack tube. It does it equally on both sides, I might add. Leaves a real serious wrinkle all the way to about 1/3 down in the gate.

How to prevent it? Find a way to put the gate up!

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You may try replacing the roll up wheel on your camper with the kind that you can pull a pin and rotate it horizontal.

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You may try replacing the roll up wheel on your camper with the kind that you can pull a pin and rotate it horizontal.
I had one of those on my boat and really missed it when I got the camper. The only problem is sometimes you would have to drive the truck rear wheels up on blocks to get enough clearance to get the jack back down to remove the trailer.

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Can you put your bike in at an angle so the tailgate can close?

Or devise a way to have the tailgate slightly tilted up. 45 degree's or something to where the rear tire could rest on it, but it would still be up far enough to clear the trailer lift. I could swear I've seen guys with the tailgate not down, not up but in the middle...
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I had a CR500 in the back of my King Cab, I just lifted the rear wheel up onto the tail gate with it closed. I have also hauled snowmobiles that way. Also you can buy or have made a hitch extension. It is a tube with a male end that goes in your receiver and a female end to put your hitch on.

I used an extension a long time ago with a 11.5' camper on an 8' bed to haul a 21' ski boat. did it for 3 years.

Or as mentioned it might go in on an angel.

Sorry for the bad experience, but there are ways.

I also use tie downs and pull my tailgate up against my ATV in the back by putting the hooks in the tailgate latch like you hook a bed extender then cinching it up to the tie down cleats.

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i was letting a friend back my boat up and he had the tailgate down so he could see. he couldn't drive very well and jack knifed the boat. dinged the top of the tailgate and messed up the plastic cap but i bought a new cap for 30 bucks

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I had a CR500 in the back of my King Cab, I just lifted the rear wheel up onto the tail gate with it closed. I have also hauled snowmobiles that way. Also you can buy or have made a hitch extension. It is a tube with a male end that goes in your receiver and a female end to put your hitch on.

I used an extension a long time ago with a 11.5' camper on an 8' bed to haul a 21' ski boat. did it for 3 years.

Or as mentioned it might go in on an angel.

Sorry for the bad experience, but there are ways.

I also use tie downs and pull my tailgate up against my ATV in the back by putting the hooks in the tailgate latch like you hook a bed extender then cinching it up to the tie down cleats.
Kong,
You listed some preety good ideas, I'll investigate.

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Can you put your bike in at an angle so the tailgate can close?

Or devise a way to have the tailgate slightly tilted up. 45 degree's or something to where the rear tire could rest on it, but it would still be up far enough to clear the trailer lift. I could swear I've seen guys with the tailgate not down, not up but in the middle...
i would recommend not to do this just b/c you dont want to get at the angle that the tailgate will come out. (around 45 degrees).

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I put my off road bike in the bed and it just sticks over the tailgate, so I must leave it down. I also tow my popup camper at the same time. Unfortunately, the handle and tube that raises and lowers the forward wheel on the popup is only about an inch from the tailgate. When I back up it inevitably smashes the plastic on the top of the tailgate or on the plastic faceplate on the tailgate. I'm talking some big ugly gouges. Anyone else have this problem? Anyway to prevent it?

if you have a reciever hitch find a longer tonge, if your using the bumper w/ a ball get a reciever hitch.

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i would recommend not to do this just b/c you dont want to get at the angle that the tailgate will come out. (around 45 degrees).

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YIKES!! I'm glad you'd thought of that because I didnt...

But I also havent really looked at it as I've not had this problem and I havent needed to take the tailgate off...

Could you devise a way to keep it at a different angle other than the one that lets it come out but would still cure your ill?
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If you only need a few inches try deflating the tires on the bike once it's loaded in the bed.
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I made some straps made of 5/16" sleeved cable and some aluminum crimps that I got from the local home improvent center (Home Depot, Lowes) It allows me to open my gate a few degrees in order to fit a bike in the bed (straight) and have the gate almost up. Each end of the cable loops around into a crimp. The eyes fit over the pin on the truck wall and the gate's latch.

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motoman,

I'd recomment taking you're receiver ball mount to a welding shop and having them weld on some extra hollow metal to extend the length of your ball mount out and away from your vehicle. If you have a standard reese (walmart) lightweight package for your trailer, then they can just extend the length with 2 pieces of c-channel steel welded together, redrill the pin hole, and you can repaint it. I would expect that about a 4-6" "push out" of the ball should be sufficient for most any tight backing situations, but YMMV.
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I had one of those on my boat and really missed it when I got the camper. The only problem is sometimes you would have to drive the truck rear wheels up on blocks to get enough clearance to get the jack back down to remove the trailer.
GregW, if you were sagging that low, you had too much tongue weight, should have been using a wieght dist hitch!

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