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Old 09-23-2004, 08:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best spray-in bedliner

Well guys, which one seems to be the best spray-in liner?
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think Rhino.
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I had Penda liner, very rubbery and grippy, can get in almost any color, lifetime guarantee, etc.
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I've had Arma and LineX. I like both.
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I'd say LineX.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Rhino discolors and material tends to wear down over time too quickly.

I'd say best one I've seen so far would be Scorpion Lining.

http://www.scorpioncanada.com/

http://www.scorpioncoatings.com/

Hawaii guys FYI there is a local company that does use this bedliner.

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Old 09-23-2004, 03:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LINE-X and Rhino differ quite a bit. The biggest difference is that LINE-X contains polyurea and Rhino does not. Polyurea enhances the bedliner’s properties: 1. LINE-X's temperature tolerance is 250 degrees and Rhino's is 175. As the temperature of the bed approaches the temp tolerance, it loses its strength. Obviously, you won't have much a problem with LINE-X. 2. Polyurea keeps moisture out of the solution thus making a more dense and solid liner. Less moisture also means better adhesion. 3. Polyurea also makes for a harder liner. The tear strength of LINE-X is 304 pounds per linear inch (pli). Rhino is 145 pli. 4. Polyurea sets up very fast, that's one reason why LINE-X goes on with heat and high pressure. LINE-X dries in about 4 seconds, so you get an even application throughout the bed. Rhino takes a minute or so to even gel, an hour or so to dry. Before it gels, gravity can pull the liner from the top ridges in to the low valleys. Rhino’s Tuff Stuff goes on cold/low pressure and thus has that gouped on or "cottage cheese" look. LINE-X’s high heat/high pressure gives it a very nice texture, it’s sort of like an orange peel. However, the dealer can vary the texture. 5. Polyurea makes the liner more chemical resistant, especially to organic oils and solvents.

LINE-X is the only brand with a NATIONWIDE lifetime warranty.

I have researched the major brands of bedliners that are on the market and can most likely answer any questions.

Scorpian is a 100% polyurethane product, similiar to Rhino. Scorpian takes 3 days to cure (YIKES!). Unfortunately, Scorpian chose to use different ASTM tests than Rhino and LINE-X and so you cannot compare the data on their website to the technical specs of LINE-X and Rhino. Hmmm...wonder why they did that?

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Old 09-23-2004, 04:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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LINE-X and Rhino differ quite a bit. The biggest difference is that LINE-X contains polyurea and Rhino does not. Polyurea enhances the bedliner’s properties: 1. LINE-X's temperature tolerance is 250 degrees and Rhino's is 175. As the temperature of the bed approaches the temp tolerance, it loses its strength. Obviously, you won't have much a problem with LINE-X. 2. Polyurea keeps moisture out of the solution thus making a more dense and solid liner. Less moisture also means better adhesion. 3. Polyurea also makes for a harder liner. The tear strength of LINE-X is 304 pounds per linear inch (pli). Rhino is 145 pli. 4. Polyurea sets up very fast, that's one reason why LINE-X goes on with heat and high pressure. LINE-X dries in about 4 seconds, so you get an even application throughout the bed. Rhino takes a minute or so to even gel, an hour or so to dry. Before it gels, gravity can pull the liner from the top ridges in to the low valleys. Rhino’s Tuff Stuff goes on cold/low pressure and thus has that gouped on or "cottage cheese" look. LINE-X’s high heat/high pressure gives it a very nice texture, it’s sort of like an orange peel. However, the dealer can vary the texture. 5. Polyurea makes the liner more chemical resistant, especially to organic oils and solvents.

LINE-X is the only brand with a NATIONWIDE lifetime warranty.

I have researched the major brands of bedliners that are on the market and can most likely answer any questions.

Scorpian is a 100% polyurethane product, similiar to Rhino. Scorpian takes 3 days to cure (YIKES!). Unfortunately, Scorpian chose to use different ASTM tests than Rhino and LINE-X and so you cannot compare the data on their website to the technical specs of LINE-X and Rhino. Hmmm...wonder why they did that?
Just curious where your getting this information I can't seem to find it anywhere?

As for your information above it's very misleading as this link will give you some basic facts of the different compounds.

http://www.elastomer.com/polymer/whatispolyurea.html

I do agree however that the Line-X has the superior warantee. Too bad they don't have a dealer here on Oahu.
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Just another tidbit FYI the factory Spray-in Bed Liner is a Polyurea.

Question: Do you think its because of the quick dry liner doesn't have enough time to bond correctly?
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I had Line-X sprayed in my Dodge... very nice! I'm leaving the plastic in my titan because all my $$ are going into suspension, tires and wheels.
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That site is not bad, but is rather incomplete and definately in summary form. For example, they don't mention that the polyester/polyether polyol ratio can be controlled; and there are 100% polyester and 100% polyether products on the market. In the industrial world, truck bed liners are considered a non-critical application. I think your reading a negative connotation in those words and you shouldn't be.

After spending an hour Google searching, here is perhaps a more complete description of polyurethane and polyurea and will support my comments.
http://www.futuracoatings.com/articles/polyurea.html

Is there anything else you consider misleading?

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I like my Linex liner..great for loading motorcycles compared to a poly drop-in liner.
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I went with Line-X and am happy with it so far. I like the nationwide warranty and this was the extent of my research on the Line-X and Rhino:

Go with Line-X if you are carrying dirt and bark, etc as it will clean up since it is a hard finish.

Go with Rhino if your priority is having a grippy surface so things don't slide around but it doesn't clean off as well.
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That site is not bad, but is rather incomplete and definately in summary form. For example, they don't mention that the polyester/polyether polyol ratio can be controlled; and there are 100% polyester and 100% polyether products on the market. In the industrial world, truck bed liners are considered a non-critical application. I think your reading a negative connotation in those words and you shouldn't be.

After spending an hour Google searching, here is perhaps a more complete description of polyurethane and polyurea and will support my comments.
http://www.futuracoatings.com/articles/polyurea.html

Is there anything else you consider misleading?
I saw that site and the main difference is: "The first thing to notice is that both systems can use the same or similar "A" components. Therefore, the main properties differences are contributed by the "B" component side of the system."

Do all polyureas contain the same "B" component?

I just want to know why the polyurea supplied by Nissan tends to bubble up
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