obsessed with fluid changing

[calgary_redneck]

Originally Posted by smoothTitan

these Numbers came from several websites, after i took the notion to research how long AT fluid would last. go to yahoo, search around and youll find it.

Obviously changing fluid in anything will help. i try to keep all my fluids in very good shape. unllike my dad or grandpaw, i am on titan talk and other forums shooting the ****. and looking at what everybody else is doing.

my dad has a work truck 1994 chevy 1500 w/t it has 178,000 hard miles on it. here is his schedule. 10,000 mile oil and filter changes and that is it. seriously he has never changed AT fluid. we have looked at it a couple times and it is as bright red as it was when it was new.

im different: when it comes to 50,000 miles ill Change about everything.

my question is when does changing fluids change from something good to just wasting your money? changing AT Fluid every 10,000 to 20,000 seems like a waste to me. not to mention its about 90$ a whack For AT fluid change in a titan.

i didnt mention this earlier but driving style has alot to do with it. if you brake torque your vehicle alot it will eventually take its toll on the tranny. if you live in a place like me where there are hills and curvy roads and leave the tranny in drive and just let it shift in and out 4 and drive im sure that will eventually hurt it. that is why i usally drive in a gear to where it doesnt have to shift so often. these things can really hurt a tranny, my buddy doing his brake torques finally burnt his tranny up.

new trucks have a warranty also, mine has 100,000 miles so im not going to waste my money on changing things before they are due. if it wants to break let it break.

Just my Opinion. in the end everybody does thing different. So if it works for you then do it.

Although I don't support changing atf every 10,000 miles not changing atf for 170,000 miles and claiming it does no damage is just assinine, remind me to never buy a used truck from you or your dad. Btw the tranny shifting in and out of 4th unless very rapid cylinling will not hurt your tranny, You arguement sounds like someone saying that not changing their engine oil w on't hurt their engine but reving it will lol. Things that will kill your tranny fast are DIRTY FLUID, towing huge loads with inproper cooling, neutral drops, shock loadsand low or airaded fluid. If you are not going to change your fluid because you have warrenty I hope you plan to sell it before you warrenty runs out personally I can not justify abuse to any vehical weather I am the one paying for it or not.

[smoothTitan]

my dad has a work truck 1994 chevy 1500 w/t it has 178,000 hard miles on it. here is his schedule. 10,000 mile oil and filter changes and that is it. seriously he has never changed AT fluid. we have looked at it a couple times and it is as bright red as it was when it was new

just stressing the fact that a/t fluid lasts along time, this particular truck has a perfect tranny to this day.

where i live if you leave it in drive it is in and out constantly. curves, and very hilly. the few mechanics i have talked said this isnt good on a tranny. just going by what they do for a living.

[/quote]If you are not going to change your fluid because you have warrenty I hope you plan to sell it before you warrenty runs out personally I can not justify abuse to any vehical weather I am the one paying for it or not[quote]

i said changing things before they are due isnt insurance against failures.
ill change it as the manual suggests.

im different: when it comes to 50,000 miles ill Change about everything

guess you didnt see that did you.

[quote]remind me to never buy a used truck from you or your dad[\quote]


hahahahahahaha, my grandpaw was in the used car business. if you buy a used car you can bet that its probably been through the works. atf is the least of your worries.

[smoothTitan]

i am no brake expert but the guys i talk to say that the perfectly made rotor doesnt have any weak spots, but that usualy isnt the case. from what i make of it, during casting of a rotor it get impurities embedded in it which makes soft places or hard places.

I have never heard of these soft spots on the rotor you speak of, rotors are not heat treated, surface hardenend hence they should be the same hardness all the way through.

sorry to bust your bubble...

here is a site to explain further. http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf10312.htm

[calgary_redneck]

Smooth how long did it take you to find that site . BTw if you go back and read your own site you will find it does differenciate between warpage/thickness variation and "hard spots". In any case don't worry I have no bubble to burst what I say comes from my education and experience

[smoothTitan]

you said

rotors are not heat treated, surface hardenend hence they should be the same hardness all the way through.

actually went to yahoo and searched for it to make sure i didnt dream this and that i didnt mis-interperate this.... internet is wonderful

Rotors can also develop hard spots that contribute to pedal pulsations and variations in thickness. Hard spots may be the result of poor quality castings or from excessive heat that causes changes in the metallurgy of the rotors. A sticky caliper or dragging brake may make the rotor run hot and increase the risk of hard spots forming. Hard spots can often be seen as discolored patches on the face of the rotor. Resurfacing the rotor is only a temporary fix because the hard spot usually extends well below the surface and usually returns as a pedal pulsation within a few thousand miles. That’s why most brake experts replace rotors that have developed hard spots.

there it is its easy to see. some how i am still wrong and you are still right.

good education

[skromfols]

I never stayed at a Holiday Inn, but even I know that you need to change your blinker fluit at least twice a year, I usually change mine when I put the winter air in the tires, then when I change back to summer air. Just remember to use remanufactured air, not just straight air. We have to conserve.

[calgary_redneck]

I have decided not to sink my self to replying to this topic anymore.

[Squid]

I have decided not to sink my self to replying to this topic anymore.

I think you just did?

[juma]

Originally Posted by smoothTitan

lol you have alot of time on your hands, dont you.

its pretty sad that somebody would actually go back through and read the posts that someone else has made. i can say that i have never resarched someone elses posts inorder to get or try to get the upper hand.

i think i can ask a few questions about grilles for my truck. far from an obsession.

so you are saying that anyone on here who asked asked a couple questions about products for their trucks has an obsession. thats pretty funny.

yes grille obsession is funny to me. you will probably research my posts before november is over. one guy's obsession is another's joke. live and let live. but I can see you can't. juma

[smoothTitan]

i have read some of your posts when they come up, though i have not searched for your posts, you havent said anything to interest me even a little.

your only fault is your obession for being right all the time.

"if you think you know everything then you will never learn anything"

I AM DONE WITH THIS THREAD!

[juma]

Originally Posted by smoothTitan

i have read some of your posts when they come up, though i have not searched for your posts, you havent said anything to interest me even a little.

your only fault is your obession for being right all the time.

"if you think you know everything then you will never learn anything"

I AM DONE WITH THIS THREAD!

yes, well, I was right about you again and you don't deny your grille obsession. its great to only have one fault, let me tell ya. watch out for them soft/hard spots on the rotors!

juma

[calgary_redneck]

Originally Posted by juma

yes grille obsession is funny to me. you will probably research my posts before november is over. one guy's obsession is another's joke. live and let live. but I can see you can't. juma

Perhaps you should contact some of the automakers and offer to rewrite their service manuals for them, I'm sure they would be very interested in what a 22 year old with little to no mechanical experience has to say.

[juma]

edited and clear

[smoothTitan]

yes, well, I was right about you again and you don't deny your grille obsession.

3 posts about a grille out of 186. obsession


you make less sense everytime posts... maybe thats why i dont care to search your posts.

[calgary_redneck]

Originally Posted by juma

e tu brute? I'm 58 and know all kinds of stuff ms. nancy. surely, you must be speaking of another?? As for the above, I shall leave it to the great northern wizards like yourself - juma

I appoligize juma I ment to quote smooth