VDC / Slip

[305hp]

Ok...I turned off the VDC but the slip light comes on when the tires "break loose." Is there any way to turn off the traction control?

[Squid]

I'm pretty sure that the abls (active brake limited slip) is an always on system.

I copied this from a post back in July:
Oh and here is what my owner manual says verbatim from page 5-29.

"If the vehicle is operated with the vehicle dynamic control system off using the VDC OFF switch, all VDC and TCS (traction control system) functions will be turned off. The ABLS and ABS will still operate with the VDC system OFF. If the ABLS system is activated the slip indicator light will blink and you may..."

So it looks like since ABLS and ABS are related it's always on.

[Stomper4x4]

Not sure if the Titan systems are made by Bosch or not. I'm pretty sure they are. Here's a link to their OEM ESP systems. Can anyone confirm that?

http://www.boschusa.com/AutoOrigEqui...mpleteSystems/

http://www.boschusa.com/AutoOrigEqui...onicStability/

In any case VDC, in Nissan Speak, is ESP. ALBS would be TCS in Bosch Speak. ABS is well ABS.

It's pretty amazing how much of any vechical these days is outsourced.

[QWIKWHIP]

I have found that the "slip" light doesn't indicate traction control. It actually just let's you know the ABLS is working. Think of it as a limited slip diff with a light that tells you when it's working.

[honeykeeper]

A good way to test any of these functions is to quickly stop on wet leaves...ABS kicks on perfect....quickly accelerate on wet leaves..SLIP light comes on......this time of year the leaves are on the sides of roads and after a rain I like to test the systems out..before I really need them on asphault and traffic. The 4 wheel ABLS feature is really great for me carving the mountains daily. I have a 04 KCSE with 4 x 4 and big tow and e-loc.

[rrumaner]

I had my SLIP light go on yesterday just after filling up and leaving the station. I was heading up a slight incline and suddenly lost all forward momentum, heard a slight grinding noise and saw the light go on.

Not sure what happened but it stopped almost immediately and hasn't happened since.

Any ideas?

[QWIKWHIP]

Originally Posted by rrumaner

I had my SLIP light go on yesterday just after filling up and leaving the station. I was heading up a slight incline and suddenly lost all forward momentum, heard a slight grinding noise and saw the light go on.

Not sure what happened but it stopped almost immediately and hasn't happened since.

Any ideas?

Sounds like you slipped on something.

[HavockWK]

Originally Posted by rrumaner

I had my SLIP light go on yesterday just after filling up and leaving the station. I was heading up a slight incline and suddenly lost all forward momentum, heard a slight grinding noise and saw the light go on.

Not sure what happened but it stopped almost immediately and hasn't happened since.

Any ideas?

Sounds like your VDC kicked in. Freaked me out first time it did this for me as I slid around a wet intersection. (trying to have a little fun)

[Gig'em]

Originally Posted by HavockWK

Sounds like your VDC kicked in. Freaked me out first time it did this for me as I slid around a wet intersection. (trying to have a little fun)

I was playing around with the truck in a very wet and very empty parking lot. VDC/ALBS really keeps the truck from losing control. It does startle you though when it kicks in. I think everyone should do this just so they know how the truck reacts when it starts slipping.

[Orange Crush]

CONTINENTAL to EXPAND APPLICATIONS OF ITS
ELECTRONIC STABILITY CONTROL ON MODEL YEAR 2004 VEHICLES

--More than 30 North American vehicles will now have Continental ESC technology--

AUBURN HILLS, Mich., November 5, 2003 – Continental Teves, a unit of Continental AG, is launching production for six new electronic stability control (ESC) programs in North America on model year 2004 vehicles. More than 30 model year 2004 vehicles in North America will now be available with Continental’s advanced technology, which Continental markets as the Electronic Stability Program (ESC) and which helps reduce the risk of serious crashes, including rollovers.

Continental, a leading global manufacturer of electronic stability control technology, projects that it will supply more than 3.6 million ESC units to automakers in North America, Europe and Asia this model year, an increase of more than seven percent over the 2003 model year.

“This is excellent news for everyone interested in keeping America’s roads safer,” said Bill Kozyra, president, Continental Teves North America, observing the increase in ESC applications in North America. “Electronic stability control was proven to reduce single-vehicle crashes by 30-35 percent in recent studies conducted in Europe and Japan. Our challenge as an industry is to educate consumers so they demand it on their next vehicle.

“One of the most encouraging trends when we compared 2004 availability with 2003 is the growth among domestic models,” Kozyra continued. “For example, Ford now offers electronic stability control (marketed under the AdvanceTrac brand name) on the Explorer with both 4.0L and 4.6L engines, and they have made it a ‘stand alone’ option to make it even more readily available to consumers. Furthermore, more automakers than ever before are making this great ESC safety technology standard equipment.”

Continental has begun or will soon begin production of ESC systems on six new model year 2004 vehicles in North America (highlighted in bold in the list below), and provides ESC technology to a number of automakers on their current model year 2004 vehicles.

Continental applications include:

§ Audi Roadster TT (marketed as Electronic Stability Program)
§ BMW 3-Series (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ BMW Z4 (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ Chrysler 300 (Electronic Stability Program) … new program
§ Chrysler Crossfire (Electronic Stability Program) … new program
§ Dodge Magnum (Electronic Stability Program) … new program
§ Ford Expedition (AdvanceTrac)
§ Ford Explorer (AdvanceTrac)
§ Infiniti FX 35 (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
§ Infiniti FX 45 (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
§ Jaguar S-Type (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ Jaguar XJ Series (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ Jaguar XK Series (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ Lincoln LS (AdvanceTrac)
§ Mercedes M-Class (Electronic Stability Program)
§ Mercedes C-Class (Electronic Stability Program)
§ Mercedes Coupe CLK (Electronic Stability Program)
§ Mercedes Roadster SLK (Electronic Stability Program)
§ Mercury Mountaineer (AdvanceTrac)
§ MINI Cooper (Dynamic Stability Control)
§ Nissan Frontier (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
§ Nissan Murano (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
§ Nissan Pathfinder Armada (Vehicle Dynamic Control) … new program
§ Nissan Titan (Vehicle Dynamic Control) … new program
§ Nissan Xterra (Vehicle Dynamic Control)
§ Porsche Cayenne (Porsche Stability Management)
§ Toyota Sequoia (Vehicle Stability Control)
§ Volkswagen New Beetle (Electronic Stabilization Program) … new program
§ Volkswagen Touareg (Electronic Stabilization Program)
§ Volvo S70/V70/C70 (Dynamic Stability and Traction Control)
§ Volvo S80 (Dynamic Stability and Traction Control)
§ Volvo S40/V40 (Dynamic Stability and Traction Control)
§ Volvo S60 (Dynamic Stability and Traction Control)
§ Volvo XC90 (Dynamic Stability and Traction Control)

Electronic stability control technology significantly improves vehicle stability in all three primary areas of vehicle performance: accelerating, cornering and braking. Using electrical sensors strategically placed throughout the vehicle, the system analyzes steering wheel activity, wheel speeds, acceleration and the vehicle’s rotation about its vertical axis and continually analyzes this data to determine whether the actual course of the vehicle corresponds to the desired direction. By braking individual wheels and reducing engine torque, it automatically corrects understeer and oversteer, and helps keep vehicles on the road.

Continental Teves, headquartered in Frankfurt/Main Germany, is a unit of Continental AG, Hanover, Germany. With 2002 sales of approximately $12 billion (US), the Continental Corporation is a major supplier of brake systems, chassis components, vehicle electronics, tires and technical rubber products. Continental Teves’ North American operation is headquartered in Auburn Hills, Mich. For additional information, visit these websites: www.conti-online.com and www.contitevesna.com.

[Stomper4x4]

nice find Orange-Crush. So many cars have these systems now. I would be nice to be able to shut them all off, but at least you can turn off VDC if you have it.

[Vinny Singh]

Pull the ABS fuse, or put a 2nd VDC switch, spliced into the ABS fuse connector (still fused somewhere) in the blank spot on 2003 Titans?

It's burnout time!

People were doing this modification on the WRX, because over any sort of rough surface, the ABS would kick on unpredictably, and you would have no pedal/brake feel. I heard others with the problem, and then experienced it in a parking lot full of potholes. I figured I would disable the system... then forgot about it when I saw the price from some "tuner". I could easily build it, but the car was new to me, I didn't know where wires and fuses were, nor did I have time for that. I should have made time.

My WRX soon went out of control due to the brakes strange behavior in a strange situation. Had it been any other car I owned I would still have it today. There is a nhtsa investigation on the abs system for the WRX, seems like quite a few people have signed up. You mash the brakes, and it feels like the car is not applying them (spongy, not even a chirp + abs noise). Then the back end lifts up and starts swaying. Then you end up across a major highway in front of an oncoming semi truck. Then you hobble to their passing lane, to be hit by a woman not looking at you because her husband is yelling at her to watch out, and she HAS to turn and face him to argue that she know's what she is doing (she wanted to pass the truck that "slowed down for no reason"). I saw her look at me within the last 30 feet... then she tboned me. Next thing I know is my seat is touching shoulders with my passengers seat, and my arm is burning (side airbag), and I have no glass on the drivers side of the car. For fun, my trunk pops open after me and my friend look at each other and go wtf! lol

The titan ABS seeems VERY good comparatively... but it would still be nice to disable it when you wanted.

[falchulk]

Originally Posted by Vinny Singh

Pull the ABS fuse, or put a 2nd VDC switch, spliced into the ABS fuse connector (still fused somewhere) in the blank spot on 2003 Titans?

It's burnout time!

People were doing this modification on the WRX, because over any sort of rough surface, the ABS would kick on unpredictably, and you would have no pedal/brake feel. I heard others with the problem, and then experienced it in a parking lot full of potholes. I figured I would disable the system... then forgot about it when I saw the price from some "tuner". I could easily build it, but the car was new to me, I didn't know where wires and fuses were, nor did I have time for that. I should have made time.

My WRX soon went out of control due to the brakes strange behavior in a strange situation. Had it been any other car I owned I would still have it today. There is a nhtsa investigation on the abs system for the WRX, seems like quite a few people have signed up. You mash the brakes, and it feels like the car is not applying them (spongy, not even a chirp + abs noise). Then the back end lifts up and starts swaying. Then you end up across a major highway in front of an oncoming semi truck. Then you hobble to their passing lane, to be hit by a woman not looking at you because her husband is yelling at her to watch out, and she HAS to turn and face him to argue that she know's what she is doing (she wanted to pass the truck that "slowed down for no reason"). I saw her look at me within the last 30 feet... then she tboned me. Next thing I know is my seat is touching shoulders with my passengers seat, and my arm is burning (side airbag), and I have no glass on the drivers side of the car. For fun, my trunk pops open after me and my friend look at each other and go wtf! lol

The titan ABS seeems VERY good comparatively... but it would still be nice to disable it when you wanted.

You do understand that any burnouts with the abs out of the loop would be a very long, 1 wheeled affair? Without real limited slip that would be a useless mod.

[Vinny Singh]

Ooooh burn... you got me there. Ok, so how do we disable the rear ABS channels? I was wondering what ABLS was lol.

[rrumaner]

I am getting the SLIP light coming o more often now that we have snow/ice on the roads. It seems that as I make a turn from a stop, I get started, the tires lose traction, the slip light comes on and I wonder if the car coming at me is going to stop before I gain traction again and get out of their way.