Dealer says Big Brakes coming from Nissan

DjKamper · 01-10-2005, 07:30 AM

At the dealer for my 4th brake TSB last week. Service writer did the "you didn't hear this from me - BUT - The rotors in the Titan are from the Frontier and to small. Nissan will be providing a new, large rotor fix in the near future".

They know I am at a point of "lemon law" in CO - although they also communicated that the lemon law only applies if I am refused service. I will check into that one further.

Overall the dealer has taken very good care of me considering some of the titan issues with brakes and rattles. I really like the Titan and can't wait for a a real fix to the brakes as I know I will also need it if I do end up with an 05.

Gearman1987 · 01-10-2005, 07:38 AM

I would have looked at the Service Writer and said "NO SH!T - REALLY - The Brakes are too small - that would explain my multiple trips here!" (by the way I mine was ready for it's 3rd set when I traded it at 22,000)

Unfortunately, other vendors seem to have been able to offer a "fix" before Nissan sould get to it:

Titan Big Brake kit! 14”!!

honeykeeper · 01-10-2005, 07:42 AM

It will be interesting to see how they address the 17 and 18" wheels????? Two different size fixes???

*joekrz* · 01-10-2005, 08:08 AM

So why is it that not all of us have brake issues? I have over 7,000 miles and don't have any of the juddering or warping problems mentioned on this site. Build date on mine is 8/4/04. Does that have something to do with it?

QWIKWHIP · 01-10-2005, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joekrz

So why is it that not all of us have brake issues? I have over 7,000 miles and don't have any of the juddering or warping problems mentioned on this site. Build date on mine is 8/4/04. Does that have something to do with it?

I don't have any problems either but there are some people that have gotten it at 2kmi and others didn't get it till over 10kmi. I'm guessing driving styles have alot to do with it.

JMC · 01-10-2005, 08:39 AM

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So why is it that not all of us have brake issues? I have over 7,000 miles and don't have any of the juddering or warping problems

Just hook you a 4 or 5,000 lb. trailer on that has no brakes and tow it around a few days. You will have the judder in no time.

dooboy2112 · 01-10-2005, 08:58 AM

Mine started having issues at about 5000 miles with towing anything

QWIKWHIP · 01-10-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JMC

Just hook you a 4 or 5,000 lb. trailer on that has no brakes and tow it around a few days. You will have the judder in no time.

Maybe that's why you have the brake judder than.

Your crazy to be towing that much with no brakes. Not only does it over work the trucks brakes, but it's just plain unsafe! The trucks brakes were not meant to stop the truck plus 5k pounds. Please read the manual and tow safely.

This is from the owners manual.

When towing a trailer load of 1,000 lbs.
(454 kg) or more, trailers with a brake system
MUST be used.

lizardking · 01-10-2005, 09:03 AM

I'm sure Nissan will put a recall/campaign on bigger brakes just like I will win the lottery worth millions....lol I can honestly say that I have never had any issues with my brakes other then spongy feeling compared the Maxima. I don't have any judder or vibrations issues at this time...

*tortuga* · 01-10-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joekrz

So why is it that not all of us have brake issues? I have over 7,000 miles and don't have any of the juddering or warping problems mentioned on this site. Build date on mine is 8/4/04. Does that have something to do with it?

i think cause your build date had the new brake set, not sure if that's even a true asessment.

my theory as to why you don't have problems is because its so damn COLD in wisconsin the subzero wind chill probably cools the brakes down before they get too hot to warp, i dunno - just an idea...

OddBall · 01-10-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by QWIKWHIP

Maybe that's why you have the brake judder than.

Your crazy to be towing that much with no brakes. Not only does it over work the trucks brakes, but it's just plain unsafe! The trucks brakes were not meant to stop the truck plus 5k pounds. Please read the manual and tow safely.

This is from the owners manual.

When towing a trailer load of 1,000 lbs.
(454 kg) or more, trailers with a brake system
MUST be used.

I'm crying foul here. I've towed for years and with many different vehicles. Do you mean to tell me my single axle enclosed trailer, with a gtw of 3500 lbs needs to be retrofitted with trailer brakes? If thats the case then the Titan has some of the worst brakes imaginable on a vehicle.

As it stands now I don't recall any single axle trailers in the sizes that would be normally towed by these vehicles having a supplemental braking system.

I'll continue to ignore the warning about 1000+ lb trailers and tow like i've always been. None of my other vehicles had braking isssues and one in particular, my 99 F350 SD Diesel saw it's first front brake replacement at 102,000 miles. I did plenty of towing with that.

Sounds to me like the brakes are wholly inadequate, Nissan wrote the manual to account for that and we're being given a safety snow job.

I hope I am wrong.

drewdawg · 01-10-2005, 11:13 AM

I have a build date of 7/04 and have the brake issue. I drive hard on my brakes. I think everyone has it, but its just a matter of time depending on driving style until noticed.

QWIKWHIP · 01-10-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OddBall

I'm crying foul here. I've towed for years and with many different vehicles. Do you mean to tell me my single axle enclosed trailer, with a gtw of 3500 lbs needs to be retrofitted with trailer brakes? If thats the case then the Titan has some of the worst brakes imaginable on a vehicle.

As it stands now I don't recall any single axle trailers in the sizes that would be normally towed by these vehicles having a supplemental braking system.

I'll continue to ignore the warning about 1000+ lb trailers and tow like i've always been. None of my other vehicles had braking isssues and one in particular, my 99 F350 SD Diesel saw it's first front brake replacement at 102,000 miles. I did plenty of towing with that.

Sounds to me like the brakes are wholly inadequate, Nissan wrote the manual to account for that and we're being given a safety snow job.

I hope I am wrong.

I'm not gonna question or argue about anybodies towing habits, I'm just stating what the manual says. And yes, if you lived in NY (and many other states) you would have to retrofit brakes to your trailer because it's the law. Anything over 1000 pounds must have brakes or it can't be registered. And I'm not denying that there is a brake problem, I am well aware that there is an issue. I think the brakes a plenty strong enough to do the job, I just think there is a problem with the parts being used.

D-Love · 01-10-2005, 12:05 PM

I've had 2 oil changes and 2 brake "fixes".

My dealer urged me not to do the second fix (last week) b/c their Factory rep told him the "perm fix" will be rolling out at the end of Jan or early Feb.

I'll believe it when I see it...hope I see it soon.

Brons2 · 01-10-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joekrz

So why is it that not all of us have brake issues? I have over 7,000 miles and don't have any of the juddering or warping problems mentioned on this site. Build date on mine is 8/4/04. Does that have something to do with it?

perhaps because warping is caused by heat and you live in snowy WI?