Grinding/Moaning sound while turning left

HighDesert · 01-20-2005, 01:22 PM

Wondering if any of you have experienced a grinding sound while turning your Titan? Mine started a couple of days ago, particularly while turning to the left. I *thought* it might be an early sign of the dreaded brake judder, but it occurs everytime the wheel is turned to the left, regardless of speed or whether or not the brakes are being used. The sound appears to be coming from under the right wheel well though it is hard to pin down. I only have 1500 miles on it, and I would say it started around 1200.

I have a scheduled appt. with service on Monday, so hopefully they can get to the bottom of it without any serious dent in my wallet (or the truck while they drive it).

If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions let me know.

Thanks,

logicjunky · 01-20-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HighDesert

Wondering if any of you have experienced a grinding sound while turning your Titan? Mine started a couple of days ago, particularly while turning to the left. I *thought* it might be an early sign of the dreaded brake judder, but it occurs everytime the wheel is turned to the left, regardless of speed or whether or not the brakes are being used. The sound appears to be coming from under the right wheel well though it is hard to pin down. I only have 1500 miles on it, and I would say it started around 1200.

I have a scheduled appt. with service on Monday, so hopefully they can get to the bottom of it without any serious dent in my wallet (or the truck while they drive it).

If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions let me know.

Thanks,

Brake judder is while traveling at any rate of speed and applying the brakes. The "warping/deposit coated rotors" cause the whole vehicle and steering wheel to shimmy or 'judder' when you do this. There is not typically any kind of grinding sound when turning associated to brake judder.

Turning the wheel and hearing that leads me to believe that you are driving with your truck in 4X4 and not 4X2 mode. Is this correct? If so, the front wheels are not spinning at the same speed as the back, if not, you have something entirely different going on.

I would drive it in a parking lot and turn to the left and when you start to hear that grinding sound, stop the vehicle where it's at and put it in park. Then get out and look to see if anything is rubbing or catching in the right wheel well. Check the both joints up and down and make sure the wheel is not touching anything, like the inside of the fender.

Good luck!

HighDesert · 01-20-2005, 02:35 PM

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Brake judder is while traveling at any rate of speed and applying the brakes. The "warping/deposit coated rotors" cause the whole vehicle and steering wheel to shimmy or 'judder' when you do this. There is not typically any kind of grinding sound when turning associated to brake judder.

Right. I first noticed the sound while coming down a parking garage, turning left and touching the brakes. That was why I originally thought it was "judder". Since then I have noticed that it only occurs when turning the wheel, totally separate from brake use at all. It has definitely gotten worse over the past few days, and is far more prominent at 10-20 mph.

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Turning the wheel and hearing that leads me to believe that you are driving with your truck in 4X4 and not 4X2 mode. Is this correct?

Definitely not in 4x4. Can pop in and out of 4 Hi without any problem.

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I would drive it in a parking lot and turn to the left and when you start to hear that grinding sound, stop the vehicle where it's at and put it in park. Then get out and look to see if anything is rubbing or catching in the right wheel well. Check the both joints up and down and make sure the wheel is not touching anything, like the inside of the fender.

Yeah, I've tried that several times and can't see anything that easily explains it. I was definitely hoping it would be that easy to get to the bottom of it, but so far obvious explanations for it have eluded me. If the dealer finds anything I'll post it.

Thanks again.

logicjunky · 01-20-2005, 02:48 PM

Well, hmmm...use your parking brake much? Maybe a caliper is hung up and jamming the pads down on the rotor and chewing them up? Just guessing on that one.

Masa · 01-20-2005, 04:47 PM

HighDesert:

I started noticing the same problem about a month ago, except that mine makes the noise if I'm turning to the right sharply instead of left. The noise comes from the right front. Two days ago, I finally decided to inspect the area to see what's up. Apparently, the right front tire's sidewall on the inside has been rubbing against the tirewell (black plastic piece) when the steering is turn to the right. I could easily tell because the area that's rubbing against the tire looks clean and shiny. The part looks to be securely attached and not deformed. Your problem may not be the same as mine, but just in case.

HighDesert · 01-20-2005, 05:17 PM

Thanks, Masa -- I'll go out an take another look. Have you noticed any wear on the inside edge of your tire as a result? Do you feel any drag while turning? What are you going to do to remedy the problem?

Appreciate all the suggestions.

honeykeeper · 01-20-2005, 05:25 PM

HighDesert......if it's not there..check your steering system.....rack-rods-ends etc.Tom

Masa · 01-20-2005, 05:37 PM

[quote=HighDesert]Have you noticed any wear on the inside edge of your tire as a result? Do you feel any drag while turning? What are you going to do to remedy the problem?QUOTE]

I saw no visible sign of wear on the tire although the tirewell piece clearly looks wearing down where the tire comes in contact with. The contact area is too small to create any kind of drag that you can actually feel. Since this problem developed after I submitted my claim form and supporting documents to BBB Auto Line for vehicle replacement, I won't do anything about it... Good luck!