Nissan Titan Forum Left Header Nissan Titan Forums Right Header
Go Back   Nissan Titan Forum > Titan Discussion > Titan General Discussion

Titan General Discussion General Discussion about the Nissan Titan.

   
       

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-09-2005, 08:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 21
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Exclamation vdc button

I have a 2004 Titan "LE" with 4x4 & tow-package. The vehicle also has a VDC button (vehicle dynamic control) button. The manual states the VDC should be on during all normal driving. I was just wondering if this device is adding to my gas consumption ???

I inquired about the device with the Nissan dealership, but their know less about the vehicle than I do (not good)

Does any one owner with said device know if leaving this device off will save alot of gas ?????
Jersey Titan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 09:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
tnbowhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: South East Tennessee
Posts: 3,152
Thanks: 22
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
It's been discussed before and I think the concensus was....NO...you will not gain any more MPG by turning it off.
I have it on my truck and the safety factor of leaving it on far out weigh any slight MPG gains.
__________________
Radiant Silver SE K/C 4X4, Big Tow, Off Road Pkg, Utility bed pkg., Prefered with Captains, Factory step rails, Factory bug deflector.
2005 Xterra,Canteen Green, with Power Pkg. Utility Pkg.
2001 Polaris Sportsman 500.



Last edited by tnbowhunter; 08-09-2005 at 09:30 AM.
tnbowhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 11:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
GETSOMZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dayton, OH
Posts: 1,645
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I turn it off unless there is inclement weather. It has proved to be an annoyance to me when I am trying to merge with traffic only to find it has killed my throttle input.
__________________
Scott
2004 White Titan SE CrewCab 4x4 - (SOLD)
2002 SOM Z28 - For haulin' arse
GETSOMZ28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 12:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
KTMNealio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 449
Send a message via AIM to KTMNealio
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to KTMNealio
If you are a very skilled driver, VDC is a hinderance IMHO. However, it probably benefits over 1/2 the drivers out there..
- Nealio
__________________

2005 SE - Smoke CC 4x4
My Titan's wheels and tires
KTMNealio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 01:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
tnbowhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: South East Tennessee
Posts: 3,152
Thanks: 22
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by KTMNealio
If you are a very skilled driver, VDC is a hinderance IMHO. However, it probably benefits over 1/2 the drivers out there..
- Nealio
Oh, now i'm an unskilled driver.
__________________
Radiant Silver SE K/C 4X4, Big Tow, Off Road Pkg, Utility bed pkg., Prefered with Captains, Factory step rails, Factory bug deflector.
2005 Xterra,Canteen Green, with Power Pkg. Utility Pkg.
2001 Polaris Sportsman 500.


tnbowhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 05:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
VDC or EBFD

Is VDC an option? I thought I got it with the side air bag package but upon further investigation, I found no VDC OFF button and no where on the sticker saying VDC...I DID find Electronic Brake Force Distribution, what is that????

THANKS!!!
DocBugg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 05:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
kartman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 3,297
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts
My 05LE does not have it and I am happy about that.
__________________
Rebar Wrangler

Its a truck with bigger shocks and stuff.
kartman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 05:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
baseballfanz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sugar Land
Posts: 7,763
Thanks: 19
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by GETSOMZ28
I turn it off unless there is inclement weather. It has proved to be an annoyance to me when I am trying to merge with traffic only to find it has killed my throttle input.
If you want to turn it off and keep it off this device might work for you. Click on products and click on traction control. It basically remember your setting and keep it that way.
http://www.kptechnologies.com/
__________________
Titan/Armada Part Numbers
Nissan ODB2 Codes

AEM intake, Banks exhaust, Up Rev tuned. Detroit Truetrac
305.5 WHP, 370.4 ft/lbs tq
baseballfanz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 06:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
scr38's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lake Jackson, Tx
Posts: 545
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocBugg
Is VDC an option? I thought I got it with the side air bag package but upon further investigation, I found no VDC OFF button and no where on the sticker saying VDC...I DID find Electronic Brake Force Distribution, what is that????

THANKS!!!
EBFD automatically balances braking force between the front and rear brakes.
scr38 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2005, 06:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Newmarket, NH (Seacoast Region)
Posts: 202
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
VDC was part of BT on the '04s. Now it's part of the Air Bag package.
Since my son and I are woefully unskilled drivers, and winters here can be a challenge, I'm delighted we both have it.
As for gas mileage improvement, turning VDC off is a myth. My fill-up today worked out to 16.4 mpg. That's mostly around-town with brief interstate runs. I've never turned VDC off. Maybe if I did, I'd break 16.5. But then there's those limited driving skills to deal with. Some dilema.
__________________
Jim in NH
Copper LE CC (mine)
Born 2/25/04. 4 WD, Big Tow, Nissan Hood Protector, Weatherflectors, Truxedo LoProfile, PIAA 1500 Backup Lights, CompuStar Remote Start, OEM Sirius & Sigma antenna, K&N drop-in.
Galaxy SE KC (son's)
Born 5/10/04. 4 WD, Big Tow, Popular Package w/captains, Utility Bed, Weatherflectors, Truxedo LoProfile, PIAA 1500 Backup Lights, CompuStar Remote Start, K&N drop-in.
jburson250 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 08:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
milleniamarv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 220
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Guess I'll have to put myself in the woefully unskilled driver category also since I appreciate having VDC. But I'm trying to improve my braking technique by learning how to apply the brakes only on one side, or even diagonally (front right along with left rear) to help recover when another driver pulls out of a blind driveway in front of me on a snow covered road putting me in a nasty skid.

I just can't seem to master that "skilled driver" ability to be able to use one foot on one brake pedal to allow braking force directed only to the tire or tires that have sufficient traction to help the situation. Maybe if I took my shoe off?
__________________
KC LE 4X4 Built 03/04, Sedona, Big Tow, XM Radio, Remote start, Billet grille, Advance bed cover, Chrome tailgate cover, '05 finned diff. cover, Armada air dam

Utah Highway 12
http://www.byways.org/browse/byways/2020/
milleniamarv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 08:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
DeTitan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SW OH
Posts: 407
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
On a vehicle blessed with lots of torque VDC is a good thing skilled or not.

As Martha would say its a good thing!

Some other manufacturer calls it ESP or electronic stability program.

If you want to hot rod and pull 180s or 360s in the snow or dirt then turn it off else it may be best to leave it on, but then we are all individuals eh!
__________________
DeTitan
2005 Titan LE 4X4 Crew RadSilver
Side Air Bag/Curtain Pkg w/VDC!
MOD: Circular rotating blind spot mirror.
DD 12/30/04

DeTitan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 08:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
Premium User
Nissan Titan Status - Premium Member
iTrader: (0)
 
Kronos1965's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 3,696
Thanks: 61
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
VDC a hindrance?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KTMNealio
If you are a very skilled driver, VDC is a hinderance IMHO. However, it probably benefits over 1/2 the drivers out there..
- Nealio
What?

So you're saying you can apply brakes a couple thousand times a second to avoid skidding?

And you can identify which wheels are losing traction and apply less gas/downshift to regain traction faster than the VDC?

Show me an insurance company that believes that a human is better at making those decisions than a computer.

The only way VDC would be a hindrance would be if you are trying to break loose the vehicle for some fun or try to squeal the tires. VDC would be a hindrance.

It will only engage when there's a reason to do so.

Not trying to flame but certainly disagree that a driver performs better without VDC.
__________________
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. -- Will Rogers
Kronos1965 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 08:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Tyltan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 914
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
VDC had saved me and my family last winter. We went to Big Bear for ski. I saw Escalate (sp?), Honda Prelude, Corvette, and other vehicles slided side way. My titan with VDC on and we had no problem driving in slippery road. The light will flash on your dash when it's working.
Tyltan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2005, 10:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 200
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Many of you guys are right and wrong about VDC at the same time.

First off, VDC has no influence on gas mileage.

VDC can help save your rear if you get out of shape, and can help you recover from a skid better then you could without. Unless your truck has four brake pedals and you can work them all at the same time, it can exhibit more control over the trucks attitude then even the best driver could.

That said, to a good driver VDC is a hinderance to maximum performance. It interferes too often and earlier then needed for a good driver. While it will help even a good driver avoid a spin, they certainly won't set any record lap times with it on. But it can also be argued that a good driver can avoid situations where they need VDC to save them. I think that the greatest benefit on our trucks is when you are pulling a trailer and the trailer tries to push the truck. Maybe that's why it was part of the big tow package.

I have driven a few cars with basicly the same system as ours on an autocross track. A BMW 530i, Mercedes C320, Caddy CTS and STS. All had the Bosch system, but were tuned diffferently. The BMW was in full nanny mode, and the car was slow and no fun. The Mercedes was better, but the Caddy systems were set up to allow a lot more slip. I also went for a fun run with a professional driver in the CTS. He was showing off, and put the car into a tank slapper after a slalom. I tought we were going to spin, as the car was past the point where he should have been able to steer out of the slide. You could feel the system go to work and he caught it. He admitted that the system saved him.
Titan Power is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply






Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:24 AM.


  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.